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#1 2017-01-10 20:28:52

Spitfir3121
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my project

well i might as well make a thread! this is going to be a fairly low budget and low spec build that ill be upgrading when time and money allows.
started insulation today
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so my plan as it stands is to create an open top chest on the passengers side the width of the sliding door and to the left of that some generic van racking over the wheel arch.
not entirely sure what to do for a bed yet as i need the drivers side space to fit 2 motorbikes so will need to be clever with that!

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#2 2017-01-10 20:45:14

Casper
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#3 2017-01-11 14:44:26

Spitfir3121
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Re: my project

interesting, im still toying with the idea of my bed being totally removable. next job i think is to ply the roof

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#4 2017-01-11 15:32:41

Casper
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Re: my project

Spitfir3121 wrote:

interesting, im still toying with the idea of my bed being totally removable. next job i think is to ply the roof

Much neater getting the lining out a E7

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DISPATCH-SCUD … SwRLZUAEy6

I got mine for 20 quid  big_smile

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#5 2017-01-11 15:53:00

OAT
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Re: my project

I noticed that one too.  Swivel seat bases and night heater worth quite a few quid alone.

I like how they have carpeted the whole of the rear doors.

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#6 2017-01-11 18:08:16

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OAT wrote:

I noticed that one too.  Swivel seat bases and night heater worth quite a few quid alone.

I like how they have carpeted the whole of the rear doors.

I just kept an eye out for deals on ebay for swivel bases. Bought two at different times and they did not match but then you dont see them anyway. The two cost be in the region of £70 posted.

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#7 2017-01-11 18:16:31

Spitfir3121
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Re: my project

Casper wrote:
Spitfir3121 wrote:

interesting, im still toying with the idea of my bed being totally removable. next job i think is to ply the roof

Much neater getting the lining out a E7

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DISPATCH-SCUD … SwRLZUAEy6

I got mine for 20 quid  big_smile

good call on that one chap, i think ill be doing that, i suppose it will naturally offer a degree of insulation too. my only worry is where ill be mounting my racking as i was planning on screwing it to the ply roof!

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#8 2017-01-11 21:27:09

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What racking? Is it ceiling wall mounted? You could run a strap of wood along the roof between the supports and use this of you can get it to stay strong enough. Another option is normal wall brackets countersunk into the wall hardwood wall (depending on what wood you use) and cover this in whatever you are covering the walls with.

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#9 2017-01-13 20:29:38

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Re: my project

This is something in the region of what my intended layout will (hopefully/eventually) be!

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#10 2017-01-14 16:25:06

Casper
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Re: my project

Hywelius wrote:

This is something in the region of what my intended layout will (hopefully/eventually) be!

Only downer i see with that is where to keep the gas. It will have to be small bottles as when closed up the bottle will be in the way. Can you long cylinder shaped gas like a small fire extinguisher?

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#11 2017-01-18 20:33:32

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Re: my project

In terms of gas cylinder, I'm thinking of going back to the old Camping Gaz 907 bottle, or even the 904, much smaller than anything by Calor.


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#12 2017-01-18 21:10:25

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Do you need more than one ring when alone? Single burner from go outdoors for around 20 quid and tins of gas.

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#13 2017-01-18 23:37:13

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Ricko wrote:

In terms of gas cylinder, I'm thinking of going back to the old Camping Gaz 907 bottle, or even the 904, much smaller than anything by Calor.

The Camping Gaz cylinders are nice for stowing but silly money per refill.

Cylinder                              Cylinder Cost    Refill Cost      Total New    Cost per kg
Calor 4.5kg Butane                        £39.99            £16.75        £56.74               £3.72
Campingaz R907 (2.75kg)       £50.00            £30.00        £80.00             £10.90
Calor 3.9kg Propane                       £39.99            £15.99        £55.98              £4.10

(prices as at 2014)

http://www.getoutwiththekids.co.uk/camp … -cylinder/

I currently have a Camping Gaz 904 with a 901 as backup.  The refill costs are making me think of returning to Calor though.  (Unless abroad.)

edit... scuse the format of the table if scrambled.  Looked fine until posted.  Can be seen at the above link which has other answers to basic gas questions.

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#14 2017-01-19 08:52:27

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Re: my project

there are allways bottles (calor) up for grabs free or cheap , also you can hand in a butane bottle and swap it for a propane.( propane is a shorter bottle)

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#15 2017-01-19 19:45:51

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I'm going 3.9 propane partly for the size of the bottle, just in the far back left corner under my hob, will see if i can build in enough space into it to maybe upgrade to a bigger bottle to get longer out of it at a later date, access hatch through rear door is the plan. Going to test run the 3.9 first though. I paid about £65 for it new I think if memory serves me - at go outdoors, £15 ish refill.

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#16 2017-01-20 13:56:47

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Ricko wrote:

In terms of gas cylinder, I'm thinking of going back to the old Camping Gaz 907 bottle, or even the 904, much smaller than anything by Calor.

This year I'm going to try using the aerosol type 220g butane cans, which are cheap and readily available in Europe, and £1 each in Home Bargains ~£4.50/kg
I'll be using them with this Folding Backpacking Camping Stove and this Outdoor Camping Conversion Head Gas Tank Bottle Adaptor Stove Burner Connector

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#17 2017-01-20 20:06:32

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Re: my project

Hell!
I had no idea of the Gaz prices, I was given some cylinders and kept them, Just In Case!
I'm still using some obscure butane bottles I found on waste ground
I fancy using a single burner and a small Calor propane


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#18 2017-01-21 12:19:18

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Re: my project

tee_cee wrote:

This year I'm going to try using the aerosol type 220g butane cans, which are cheap and readily available in Europe, and £1 each in Home Bargains ~£4.50/kg
I'll be using them with this Folding Backpacking Camping Stove and this Outdoor Camping Conversion Head Gas Tank Bottle Adaptor Stove Burner Connector

Last year i took this

http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/yellowstone … ve-p396293

Obviously those tins of gas you are on about and managed two nights making something to eat. Various cups of tea and some heating in the awning from one tin.
Now this year i have a larger two burner that is getting put in permanent as a kitchen area. The gas will only be accesable from the back doors sealed away with a floor vent so i would like the gas to last a tad longer. Do you think i could get two of those and a brass Y shaped pipe and hook two tins at the same time to my stove? The availability and size/weight makes them a no brainier. Would my idea work or forget it as its stupid and i will die?

BTW the wee folding stove you ling is ace.

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#19 2017-01-21 16:27:10

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Your two ring burner will most definitely require a low pressure regulator, so connecting directly to an disposable cartridge will not work. You can however get regulators for EN417 (Lindal valve)  which will work - Cadac even make one that will take two cartridges, the Cadac Power Pak V2.

When I first used a dual burner I went with camping gaz 907, and then moved down to a 904 - lasted me for months, and easy to get.

Worth noting that stoves that use the disposable cartridges, are only designed for outdoor use - the high pressure design is more susceptible to producing carbon monoxide. Must remember to switch my CO  alarm on when cooking!

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#20 2017-01-21 16:59:32

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lol  Uncanny Tee_cee. I was asking on another forum and was given this link

https://thegascentre.co.uk/cadac-power-pak-1000

Think i am going with that idea as taking two spare tins should be plenty for two weeks. This is teh valve that came with my cooker

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And the cooker not that it tells you anything apart from in a tight ass

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