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#1 Re: Maintenance » Citroen Dispatch 1.9D - White Smoke and Misfire when started cold » 2024-01-23 13:17:55

It's fixed! I was able to loosen the three bolts on the diesel pomp pulley and slightly turn the diesel pump while keeping the pulley stationary by grabbing the loose bolts. I found this was the best and easiest way to adjust it. This did the trick. The engine runs perfect once again, no smoke or misfires.

Turn out I was a bit of an idiot when fitting the new belt. I loosened the bolts on the pulley, like it said to do in a manual I found online, but the pulley was all te way to one side. I put it nicely in the middle and it's perfect.

#2 Re: Maintenance » Citroen Dispatch 1.9D - White Smoke and Misfire when started cold » 2024-01-23 11:57:53

I tried it and when revving it above bout 2k RPM when cold the misfires do stop happening so this sounds very probable. I'll give it a try!

#3 Re: Maintenance » Citroen Dispatch 1.9D - White Smoke and Misfire when started cold » 2024-01-22 16:42:42

I disconnected the EGR. My engine only had one vacuum line going into the EGR valve instead of the two most engines in the thread you linked had. Still have the same cold start problems, it seems to be running a bit better when hot. I'll have a look at the crankshaft sensor and the glow plugs later.

To me it seems the cold start problems have to somehow be related to the slipped timing because before that happend the engine was completely fine.

#4 Re: Maintenance » Citroen Dispatch 1.9D - White Smoke and Misfire when started cold » 2024-01-22 12:18:33

Thanks for the response! If this is the issue, shouldn't I have also had the cold start problems prior to the timing going wrong? Or can the wrong timing somehow damage the valve stem oil seals?

#5 Maintenance » Citroen Dispatch 1.9D - White Smoke and Misfire when started cold » 2024-01-22 10:43:49

Hello!

I am having some trouble with my 2001 Citroen Jumpy/Dispatch with the 1.9D DW8 WJZ engine. When started cold there is white smoke coming from the exhaust and the engine runs really bad, it misfires. It wil drive, but these symptoms stay as long as the engine is cold. As soon as the engine warms up it seems to run just fine.

Usually you would start by changing the glow plugs with these symptoms, but I don't think that is the problem because right before these issues the engine had some timing belt problems. While driving the engine suddenly started to run terrible. AA said the engine was probably done for and brought the car back home on a flat bed. I found that the bottom crankshaft cog bolt was loose, causing the timing to be off. The belt was changed in 2021 and had only done about 30k kilometers since changing. I thought that would be the end for my little Jumpy, but tried to revive it anyway. After tightening the crankshaft bolt and retiming the engine I ran the engine for a bit. After a few initial misfires (some unburnt diesel left from wrong timing?) it ran great. So I ordered a new belt, fitted it, and here we are now.

Now I don't recall any white smoke when I shortly ran the engine after retiming it for the first time. I do think it ran better than it does now. But I am second guessing myself because I only ran it for a little while since there was no auxiliary belt on the engine.


Here is where I would like some input from someone that maybe knows a bit more about these engines than myself smile

- Is it likely that I fitted the new timing belt (slightly) incorrect causing these problems? I did recheck the timing before putting everything back together, but I am no mechanic by trade and am human. I think that if this would be the case the engine would also run bad when warm.
- Is it possible that maybe the valves did touch the pistons causing damage?
- Is it perhaps not at all related to the timing issues? There were no cold start issues prior to the timing incident.

Thanks for reading and any tips you can give!


Edit:
Here is a YouTube video (not mine) of someone having the exact issue on the exact same van as I had with regards to the timing belt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p_TDIbKyUM&t=362s
Engine start at 0:33. Talk about loose crankshaft cog at 5:02.
He decided to replace to engine. I decided to try and save mine.

To bet clear. This is NOT the issue I have now. The cold start problems are right after replacing the timing belt en fixing the timing.

#6 Re: Maintenance » Coolant colour 2001 Dispatch 1.9D » 2023-07-17 18:27:21

I thank you for the help and apologize for my late response.

Ended up flushing the cooling system multiple times like you said and put the blue coolant that I bought in. Everything seems fine.

Using oil in a cooling system and having propane run through in the AC is wild! Never thought that would work.

#7 Maintenance » Coolant colour 2001 Dispatch 1.9D » 2023-07-10 15:38:25

Hello!

I'm having a little trouble when it comes to changing the coolant in my 2001 Citroen Jumpy/Dispatch with the 1.9D engine.

There is currently orange coolant in the engine, but according to everything I found online orange coolant is only used is really new Vauxhall cars. So it's not supposed to be in there. Not problem I thought! I'll just buy a different coolant that is supposed to work according to the internet and I will just replace all off it. So I bought blue antifreeze from Kroon-Oil. According to the Kroon-Oil website and autodoc registration plate checker it should work just fine in my van.

Now that I want to start im doubting if this is a good idea. I probably won't be able to remove all the coolant, I can't even find an engine block drain bolt. So what I would have to do is remove the bottom hose from the radiator, not get all the orange coolant out, and the fill it up with the blue stuff I bought.

Will this be fine or is this a terrible idea? Should I use a different coolant? Kroon-Oil also recommended a yellow coolant, perhaps I should use that since the colour is closer. What is currently in the car certainly is not yellow, but orange. 

Curious about what experiences you have with this! Many thanks.

#8 Re: Maintenance » Spinning locks on 2001 Citroen Jumpy (Dispatch) » 2023-05-26 16:30:53

English isn't my first language, thought I'll quickly tell I succeeded. But you're right, unfortunately it wasn't without difficulties  neutral

The sliding door was very easy to do. I undid the two bolts in the picture you added and the handle just popped out. I did not have to unhook the metal rods connected to it, plenty of space with those still connected. Pushed in the little metal "wing" that holds the old cylinder in with a screwdriver and pried the old cylinder out in no time. The new cylinder just slid right in using a little silicone spray, pushed the handle back in, did the screws and it was done! Locked perfectly.

The rear door was more difficult. There were three screws holding the handle in behind plastics "caps". Undoing those loosened the handle, but I couldn't pull it out very far. So I thought that this time I did need to undo the metal rods. This is where the swearing started haha. I just couldn't find a way to undo them, there was no space and no way to even get my hands close. After fighting with it for a while I forgot what I was trying to do. I just needed to get the cylinder out, not the handle perse. Even tho there was barely any space, I just managed to use the same trick used on the sliding door. Pushed in the "wing" on the lock with a screwdriver river and got it out with the handle still mostly in the door. smile

Now the front doors... those were the worst. I wasn't the first one going in. There were already a bunch of missing screws and broken clips. But that doesn't really matter. Got the door card off pretty quickly, I have done this before on other vehicles. Then it was time to undo the screws for the handle. Easy enough if I wasn't an idiot... The be as efficient as possible I used a drill to speed thing up. Worked perfectly until now. The lower of the two screws came right out, the upper screw was a different story... I managed to strip out the bolt with the drill. More swearing. Tried getting it out a bunch of ways without luck, so as the final measure I decided to drill it out. This caused the metal insert in the plastic of the handle to freely spin. I hope you understand what I mean. Eventually I got it out with manhandling the drill and breaking the head of the bolt off with some pliers. Victory I thought! But the rest of the process also did not go very smooth. I'll keep things short, but at first I couldn't remove the handle, then couldn't get it back in, then realized I put it back in without reconnecting the metal rods. A lot of fun.

Thought I knew all the tricks for the other front door, but on that side one of the screws for the handle was cross threaded, so it had to come out with the same violence usage of the drill. Oh and I managed to make the same mistake of not reconnecting the metal rods... All in all this door did go a lot faster.

After all that there it was. An old van that has working locks and front door handles held in with one screw instead of two.

#9 Re: Maintenance » Spinning locks on 2001 Citroen Jumpy (Dispatch) » 2023-05-25 20:38:51

Managed to replace all locks and now it works perfectly!

Thank you for the help!

#10 Re: Maintenance » Spinning locks on 2001 Citroen Jumpy (Dispatch) » 2023-05-23 22:11:10

This is very helpful! I'll give it a go tomorrow when the new locks arrive  smile

#11 Re: Maintenance » Spinning locks on 2001 Citroen Jumpy (Dispatch) » 2023-05-23 20:54:50

Thanks for the help!

All locks on my van are spinning out. The two front doors, the sliding door and the rear door.

I found replacement lock cylinders on Amazon and decided to buy them.


So in onder to change a cylinder I need to remove the entire door handle? I can't find screws on the side of the door that hold the handle on.

I was able to pop off a little square plastic piece around the lock, that revealed the cylinder. I can see a ring with two notches in it. Do I need to do something with that ring?

#12 Maintenance » Spinning locks on 2001 Citroen Jumpy (Dispatch) » 2023-05-23 17:13:27

Hello everyone!

I just bought a 2001 Citroen Jumpy (Dispatch) and am having issues with all the locks. It is impossible lock the doors, the key just keeps spinning inside the lock. It is like this for all the locks on the van.

The van doesn't have a remote key, no idea if it has central locking since I can't try it. It is possible to lock the doors from inside with the button on the door.


From my research I have gathered that this is a common issue on these vans and that it can be fixed by replacing the lock cylinders. Is this the case? And if so, does anyone have a video on how to do it? I can't seem to find many posts about this issue online and the few I can find explain the process on how to remove the old cylinders in a way I don't fully understand. Thanks

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