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#1 Re: General Discussion » Insurance » Today 00:08:55

OAT

Similar here Casper.

Won't be long before it's undercut by a bus pas though.

#2 Re: Camper Conversions » North Coast 500? » 2018-05-20 13:59:11

OAT

I have done the whole coast as a tour and also different sections quite a few times.  Not since they started calling it the NW500 though.

Covered quite a few sections of it last year on a tour of the north and was disappointed with the changes.  It's a personal thing and I am sure many would think them improvements.  Can't blame the locals for seeking to make the most of what could be a very valuable asset either, but I fear they might loose what was the original attraction.  There are already signs of local businesses being taken over by more corporate interests as the potential for profit increases with the success of the marketing.

There is talk of convoy systems being considered in some places.  The Applecross road has gone from one of the best drives in the country to a procession with a view. 

Do it soon as I think in a few years it will be no more a wilderness experience than a visit to JoG.

On a more positive note, the concentration being encouraged in one area, leaves others even quieter.  smile

#3 Re: General Discussion » Insurance after changing docs to a camper van » 2018-05-20 13:37:57

OAT

I think being cheaper or dearer depending on registration as a camper or commercials is difficult to know for sure.  There are so many other variables affecting individual quotes.  I doubt there is a lot in it for most people although different individuals seem to find either an advantage in some cases.

Best would be to get quotes for both for yourself.

If it does fit DVLA definitions though, they say it's a "legal requirement" to have it changed to motorhome.

Guidance  Converting a vehicle into a motorhome

Iv'e never heard any of the many driving undeclared "motorhomes" having any problems over it though.  To be sure, I suppose you would only need to fail any one of the requirements and it wouldn't then be a motorhome in the eyes of the DVLA.

#4 Re: Maintenance » Front Tyre Recomendations? » 2018-05-10 12:10:21

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tee_cee wrote:

Thinking about it again it's the 3PSF symbol which is now required in Germany - M+S isn't enough anymore.
Oct to Easter is the accepted norm, but the law does not impose any date range.

Not trying to be pedantic tc but in case anyone reading might be going to Germany the RAC (and many others) say :-

Germany
Winter tyres – COMPULSORY

Germany introduced regulations in 2010 requiring all passenger cars and motorbikes to be fitted with winter tyres or all season tyres on all axles in wintry conditions.

Snow chains – REQUIRED (should be carried and used as dictated by local signs or road conditions. Reduced speed limits may apply).

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/travel/driv … ad/winter/


I agree about the minefield of seeking relieable info on tyres (or just about anything at all) these days though.  We are certainly in a world of false news and not just in politics!

Information overload and no reliable way of distinguishing truth from hype!

Nothing to do with vans or tyres but worth a watch:-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p … malisation

#5 Re: Maintenance » Front Tyre Recomendations? » 2018-05-09 10:40:02

OAT

The more I look the more confusing it gets!

Summer, winter, all season, M&S, 3PSF. and now the Crossclimates which claims to be a summer tyre that matches all season tyres in winter conditions!!!  Then of course there are "Camper" tyres.

What I am looking for is an all season which offers a bit of improved grip on wet grass without sacrificing too much in milage, consumption and noise.

Looks like M&S would be the way to go but wondering if M&S with 3PSF would be worthwhile.

btw tee_cee the regs in Germany now mean it's not just in "wintery conditions" that winter tyres are required,  but they are now compulsory from October to Easter.

#6 Maintenance » Front Tyre Recomendations? » 2018-05-04 00:13:38

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Replies: 0

I happened to park with a bit of lock on and noticed a tyre looking far too shiny.  Embarrasing to admit but I hardly ever check them unless I notice something wrong!

Anyway it's a long while since I bought tyres for a van and never for a front wheel drive with half decent performance.

So bearing in mind that it's an all season camper and any improved grass and dirt grip without too much sacrifice of tarmac performance is the ideal, any recomendations?

Money is always tight but I would spend a bit more for anything that bit better.  Been too close to getting stuck in quite remote off road spots lately.

#7 Maintenance » Front Tyre Recomendations? » 2018-05-03 23:55:02

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Replies: 5

I happened to park with a bit of lock on and noticed a tyre looking far too shiny.  Embarrasing to admit but I hardly ever check them unless I notice something wrong!

Anyway it's a long while since I bought tyres for a van and never for a front wheel drive with half decent performance.

So bearing in mind that it's an all season camper and any improved grass and dirt grip without too much sacrifice of tarmac performance is the ideal, any recomendations?

Money is always tight but I would spend a bit more for anything that bit better.  Been too close to getting stuck in quite remote off road spots lately.

#8 Re: Camper Conversions » Are you taking your van for a jolly this bank holiday weekend? » 2018-05-03 23:43:20

OAT

Nothing planned but any good weather and I will get a night or two out.

Nowhere special and not much driving I think.  St Mary's Loch for a night and across to Solway area perhaps.  Should avoid any crowds.  Need to go into Carlisle to get a key cut anyway.

I have been up and down the Pennines from Skipton to Kelso at least once a month over the past three years so will leave that area to you.  It's a great run though, especialy if you try to mirror the Penine Way as close as posible.  smile

#9 Re: Camper Conversions » Newbie question » 2018-04-01 19:50:40

OAT

Those swivel seats don't half make your van look spacious C.  Mind, with that dog you need it.  smile

Even in the Expert they make so much difference.  Not just the space either.  It gives another view and is far more sociable when with company.

#10 Re: Camper Conversions » Another quick trip up north... » 2018-04-01 19:34:33

OAT

Nice neglected corner to visit.  I think I know your riverside spot at Annan.

Must look out for that hide next time.

#11 Re: General Discussion » Sliding side window locks. What do you all use? » 2018-03-16 18:10:29

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kenbw2 wrote:

Could you vouch for that one physically fitting in the gap? I assume it splits in two with one part on the outside and the other on the inside?

I need to replace the o'rings in mine and assumed the inner barrel unscrews from the flange.  I hope so anyway.  smile


Can't say for that particular one as mine where already fitted.  It looks very similar exept for the lock button inside protruding more which shouldn't affect anything.

It looks as if the outer flange is quite thin and should allow the two panes to pass. 

You might want to check on the barrel diameter with them as I don't think you would want to be filing out the holes. yikes   While doing so ask for the external flange thickness and then check your clearances.

#12 Re: Camper Conversions » What have you all covered the insides of your doors up with? » 2018-03-16 14:10:33

OAT

Well observed you two.

It is indeed a great spot.

There was an ariel slide set up last time I visited though.  Didn't improve things afaiac.

#13 Re: General Discussion » Sliding side window locks. What do you all use? » 2018-03-16 14:00:45

OAT

Mine have something like this :-

image.php?filename=ft571.jpg&stockcode=FT571&width=350&height=350&&category=00070021000f0006

On a previous van with no lock, I used a cut down chopstick laid in the window channel.

I wouldn't vouch for the security of either beyond stopping the casual opportunist thief.

#14 Re: General Discussion » XUD9 1.9 TD MPG? » 2018-03-04 20:45:09

OAT

I don't bother with checking accurately myself, (it's too scary wink)

But I do set the trip when I fill up normally from almost empty.  I expect about 600 m per tank with mixed driving.  Out in the sticks and up and down dale it drops to more like 500.  Last tank while recently touring N Pennines and Yorkshire Coast through the recent weather dropped below 500 for the first time.  Lots of low gears and wheelspin though.  smile

Sorry, not very scientific!

#15 Re: General Discussion » Gas Sevicing » 2018-02-14 14:12:31

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OAT wrote:

I looked up a couple of Smev/Dometic marine dealers.  Offering some spares but I couldn't find and seal kits.  Riduculous prices too.

Might be worth asking:-

https://www.leisureshopdirect.com/gas/c … mev-spares

And this listed under Dometic servicing:-


R PATERSON MOBILE CARAVAN REPAIRS
39 km

Falkirk
Falkirk,
GB

CONTACT SERVICE CENTRE

Another in Carlisle claim to cover Edinburgh area.  £40 call out and £40 ph though.  Cheaper to get another cooker!:-


MURRAY GIBSON SERVICES LTD
123 km

Stephenson Road Carlisle
Cumbria, CA1 3NX
GB

CONTACT SERVICE CENTRE

+44 1228 595277
INFO@MURRAYGIBSONSERVICES.CO.UK

WWW.MURRAYGIBSON.CO.UK

3 Way RV Refrigerators, Air Conditioners, Awning Rooms, Awnings, Compressor upright refrigerators, Cooking, Driving Support, Energy and Lighting, Gas Stoves, Generators, Refrigeration, Safety Solutions, Sanitation, Spirit Stoves, Ventilation, Windows and Doors

+44 7517 204404
MOBILECARAVANREPAIRS@HOTMAIL.COM

WWW.RPCARAVANREPAIRS.COM

#16 Re: General Discussion » Gas Sevicing » 2018-02-14 14:07:05

OAT

I looked up a couple of Smev/Dometic marine dealers.  Offering some spares but I couldn't find and seal kits.  Riduculous prices too.

Might be worth asking:-

https://www.leisureshopdirect.com/gas/c … mev-spares

And this listed under Dometic servicing:-


R PATERSON MOBILE CARAVAN REPAIRS
39 km

Falkirk
Falkirk,
GB

CONTACT SERVICE CENTRE

+44 7517 204404
MOBILECARAVANREPAIRS@HOTMAIL.COM

WWW.RPCARAVANREPAIRS.COM

#17 Re: Camper Conversions » Dehumidifier » 2018-02-13 23:17:46

OAT

The significant factor is not how much it collects, but how much it reduces the moisture levels in the air.  Which in any practical camping situation is I suspect as near to zero as not to matter.

Might eventually have an impact in a totally sealed environment but a sealed environment is not practical in a van with wet gear inside, cooking and breathing.

The science is way over my head but basically if you remove water vapour from the air it will just take up more from any liquid source available.  Until it has exhausted all the water available in the space it will maintain the same moisture level in the air.

If you are allowing enough ventilation to keep the condensation levels down in the first place, you are constantly topping up the inside moisture level from the outside.

A dehumidifier might help to dry out a damp van if left sealed and not used.  But usualy just as easy to give it a good run with full heat and ventilation.

I just tried to read about dew points again.  It makes my brain hurt!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dew_point

#18 Re: Camper Conversions » What have you all covered the insides of your doors up with? » 2018-02-01 13:11:37

OAT

The plastic and board on Caspers lower door is the same as mine!

From a taxi?

#19 Re: Camper Conversions » What have you all covered the insides of your doors up with? » 2018-02-01 00:14:54

OAT

I will post some pictures of my panels tomorrow.

I just assumed they came from a taxi.  It was a commercially done conversion but I doubt they would go to the expense of having them specially made for a very small production run. 

Just scrolled through loads of pics but must admit to not taking many of the inside of a side door.  smile

This is all I found.  You can see it's custom made though.  I will take a proper one tomorrow.

Slider-sm.jpg

#20 Re: Camper Conversions » What have you all covered the insides of your doors up with? » 2018-01-29 01:05:28

OAT

Doesn't seem like there's much more you can do really.  Ventilation will always help but isn't always practical in winter.

Trouble with the mould is that you will never totally get rid of it and it's not good stuff to be breathing in if your spending hours living in there. 

Decent waterproof ply would be a lot better.  How about that plastic (polycarbon?) double skinned sheet stuff wrapped in carpet?  There is allsorts of different plastic claddings out there but hard to find in the small amounts we need.

Interested to hear your living in it, do you move around much?  If you can occasionally get electric hook up for a day or two you could give it a good dry out with a fan heater.

The plastic on my sliding doors looks moulded to fit so is probably from a taxi.  Sliding windows both sides too.  The plastic still feels cold to touch but never gets condensation on it like the painted steel in the top half.  I used a couple of layers of cheap camping/yoga type mat for insulation.

#21 Re: Camper Conversions » What have you all covered the insides of your doors up with? » 2018-01-27 19:48:30

OAT

I thought you meant molding the wood to the shape at first.  smile

I see you mean mould growth though.

Hard to keep any van dry at this time of the year but I have never actually had mould growth unless laid up for weeks or months.  Sounds like you only just put the wood panels up recently and have mould growth already?

Is the ply or whatever exterieur grade?  Have you sealed it with anything?  Any insulation behind it?

If the vans standing try leaving a bit of ventilation if possible without letting rain in.  Adn give it a good run with full heat any chance you get.

My own van has plastic trim on the lower half of the sliding doors.  Only metal showing in the top half around sliding windows and in the shuts.  I was thinking of carpet but the section is so thin it would be a fidelity job and not much contact area to stick to.  Add on the problems the condensation wicking into the carpet and I haven't bothered.

I am considering foamed neoprene.  What they make wetsuits out of.  I wouldn't expect it to be a durable as other options but top half of doors should be ok for a year or two.  And that might well see the van out!  smile

Anyone used it?

#22 Re: Camper Conversions » DVLA reclassiffication without fixed bed or table - how strict? » 2018-01-17 21:02:14

OAT

As C says, it's really not worth worrying about to much. 

It's nothing like an MOT and more to stop people claiming motor home status to take advantage of any reduced costs in comparison to a commercial vehicle.  They just want to stop people putting a backpacking stove and an airbed in the back of the works van and claiming it's a camper.

And how on earth do they define "detachable but must have some permanent means of attachment" anyway?  Velcro, chewing gum, magnet?  I have had a van reclassified ok with just the flat top of a locker accepted as a table.  And another with just an 8" flip up shelf at the side of the sink.

Motor caravan minimum features

In order for a converted vehicle to qualify as a motor caravan it must have certain minimum features:

A door that provides access to the living accommodation
A bed, which has a minimum length of 1800mm or 6 feet - this can be converted from seats used for other purposes during the day but must be permanently fixed within the body of the vehicle
Awater storage tank or container on, or in, the vehicle
A seating and dining area, permanently attached to the vehicle - the table may be detachable but must have some permanent means of attachment to the vehicle. It is not good enough to have a loose table
A permanently fixed means of storage, a cupboard, locker or wardrobe
A permanently fixed cooking facility within the vehicle, powered by gas or electricity
At least one window on the side of the accommodation

If the vehicle has all of these features present, permanently fixed and installed properly, then it is a legal requirement to have it reclassified as a motor caravan on the V5C.

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...to-a-motorhome

Never heard of a single person being challenged at any later date about still conforming to the regs.  Could happen though if you stripped it out and were involved in an accident while carrying a ton or more of scrap to the tip I suppose.  But surely not just for a missing table leaf?

#23 Re: General Discussion » Front twin passenger seat » 2018-01-16 22:04:00

OAT

There never is when you have something going spare eh.

Dump it and someone will be along desperate for one though.  smile

Is the center belt three point or lap?

#24 Re: General Discussion » Lap belt conversion » 2018-01-15 00:50:45

OAT

I am sure it would be possible using readily available parts and ingenuity.

I  considered it years ago in a different van when my kids were young.  (A different world even! smile)  I didn't go ahead because of doubts over insurance cover.

Unless it was a propriety kit, tested and approved, I think in a worst case scenario, you could be left in a difficult state both personally and legally.

You could build something as safe as any 3 point set up and certainly a big improvement over a lap strap, but unless tested and approved it wouldn't meet regulations.

There are commercial options available but last time I looked, they cost nearly as much as my van.

http://scotseats.co.uk/images/uploads/d … ingles.pdf

#25 Re: General Discussion » Heater problem » 2018-01-12 11:14:41

OAT
Casper wrote:

You know the owners handbook is available for download also.


No I didn't.  I got the manual first and missed that.

Cheers.

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