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#1 Re: General Discussion » Speedo not working » 2026-05-03 11:19:52

Is it definitely the speedo. When mine suddenly stopped working it was the speed sensor down on the diff. Put in a new Febi pattern part and all was right again.

https://dispatchexpertscudo.org.uk/foru … hp?id=1893

#2 Re: Maintenance » What Makes Rear Auto Brake Adjusters Work? » 2025-01-09 17:38:14

Eddie Honda wrote:
woodbine wrote:

Having a play around with them, I confirm they work exactly as in your video,

I hadn't realised when I did the job a few weeks ago, that one of the adjusters was actually broken.

Thanks for the update.

I can never remember how they actually work apart from the fact that at some point...they don't.  lol

Having always had old tat, I'm more familiar with getting the brake adjuster spanner out and turning the old Girling square pegs.

You're welcome. Know what you mean about manual adjusters. On my MK1 Carlton it had manual adjusters - dead easy job every now and again. Least you know where you are with them. But the manufacturers insist on over complicating things - whether the new technology works or not. Still got my square hole brake adjuster spanner in the tool box, just in case. It's gathering dust, next to the feeler gauges.

#3 Re: Maintenance » What Makes Rear Auto Brake Adjusters Work? » 2025-01-09 01:39:08

Eddie Honda wrote:

Applying the handbrake so the handbrake lever moves to the left squeezes the sprung side plates to ratchet round to the next click.

While I was throwing away the old shoes, springs, etc from where I had abandoned them on the garage floor, I pulled the old adjusters out of the shoes and removed the springs. Having a play around with them, I confirm they work exactly as in your video, ie. as the handbrake lever in drum moves when handbrake applied, the adjuster gets squeezed and winds the wheel around one click with a point on the spring steel actually turning the wheel .

In fact I'm glad I replaced the adjusters along with everything else. I hadn't realised when I did the job a few weeks ago, that one of the adjusters was actually broken. When I removed it from where it locates between the shoes, the threaded part fell out of the body of the adjuster. The spring on the back of the adjuster was broken, and as such the adjuster wouldn't have been able to adjust anything on that drum.

#4 Re: Maintenance » What Makes Rear Auto Brake Adjusters Work? » 2025-01-09 01:29:39

kenbw2 wrote:
woodbine wrote:

Or was it just because you had to visit ECP that made it so nightmareish?     smile

In can do you one worse. It was ECP in Keighley

Keighley!!     yikes

I feel your pain!    wink

#5 Re: Maintenance » What Makes Rear Auto Brake Adjusters Work? » 2025-01-08 01:19:11

kenbw2 wrote:

Doing the rear drums is one job I'm glad to have done myself, and swear to never ever do again

Once in a Euro Car parts car park on a cold February night was once enough

Didn't find it too bad, even though had to do the cylinders as well as they were both leaking. Bought a Ferodo kit with shoes, springs, adjusters which were all pre-assembled, so made the job a fair bit easier. Cylinders were included in the kit too. Must admit if I had just been changing just the shoes it would have been a lot more of a faff having to fit the springs myself.

Personally, I've done far worse jobs and at least it can all be done without lying on your back from underneath. Or was it just because you had to visit ECP that made it so nightmareish?     smile

#6 Re: Maintenance » What Makes Rear Auto Brake Adjusters Work? » 2025-01-04 00:47:51

Thanks to Eddie and OAT. That video makes sense now. Could try to explain it with a thousand words, but a video does the job in seconds. Quite clever, but when you you see it in action - crude and effective.

Merry New Year to all.

#7 Maintenance » What Makes Rear Auto Brake Adjusters Work? » 2025-01-03 13:34:26

woodbine
Replies: 17

Recently replaced everything on rear brakes on my Scudo 2.0 JTD 2004, except the drums. Bought a Ferodo kit that came pre-assembled. Just wanted to ask what makes the adjusters take up the gap between shoes and drums? Some systems just normal braking driving forwards seems to activate them, others it's either braking when reversing or applying the handbrake that makes the adjusters advance.

On the picture of the adjuster location below, you can see one end of the adjuster locates into the handbrake lever arm. Is this just to locate the adjuster, or does applying the handbrake make the adjuster work. Thanks in advance for any help.

Scudo-Brake-Adjuster.jpg

#8 Maintenance » Is The Filter Screen Supposed To Come Out Of Brake Resevoir? » 2024-12-20 01:34:21

woodbine
Replies: 0

Hello again to all. Just a quick one this time. I need to change my brake fluid. I plan on using a turkey baster to remove most of the fluid from resevoir, then a Sealey pump up one man tank thing to refill and bleed. This has a pressure cap that screws onto resevoir in place of the normal cap.

Recently when I was looking at the resevoir in my 2004 Scudo 2.0 i had a go at removing the screen under the lid. I didn't really force it, just tried fingers then small screwdriver. I could get it to move up maybe half an inch or so, but no more. Before I resort to destructive methods, can anyone tell me if this screen is removable and how it comes out?

I won't be able to use the Sealey bleeder with the screen in place as it has a dip tube under the cap that screws onto resevoir - the screen would be in the way. Please see picture on here -

https://www.zoro.co.uk/shop/automotive/ … tUQAvD_BwE

Appreciate any advice before I break something.    sad

#9 Re: Maintenance » Remote central locking stopped working » 2024-09-23 19:41:05

mickthesick wrote:

Replaced the battery and done the reconnection process from the manual but no luck.

Sorry to hijack, but can anyone tell me about the reconnection process please?

Few years ago my key fob stopped working. Tried a new battery, but still nothing. Didn't realise there were poss other steps I should have taken to set up the remote locking.

I've been using the key in the locks for several years now without problems. Is there anything else I should be checking or trying?

#10 Re: Maintenance » Speedo, Odometer & trip Meter Stopped Working. » 2024-08-21 15:23:52

kenbw2 wrote:
woodbine wrote:
OAT wrote:

The parts situation with these vans is ridiculous.  One of the reasons my local garage won't do the subframe is they expect it won't be the right one when it comes and they would be a ramp down with my van in bits till they found the correct one.

That's easy. Getting the correct frame is just a case of ordering for the correct year. 2002 onwards vans have different sized holes at end of frame arms and slightly different torque rod bracket. See Ebay for different subframes.

That's Mk2 vans, right?

I know when I had a peruse ages ago for Mk1s there's like 6 different ones, with different bends in the middle etc etc

I assume because the Mk1 came with... Petrol, XUD, XUD Turbo, DW8, 1.6HDi, 2.0HDi... 6 different engines

What are you referring to as a Mk2? Do you mean basically same as Mk1 but facelifted and made up until 2006, or totally new van produced after 2006?

It appeared from my images that anything pre 2001 has same size mounting holes and anything 2002 to 2006 had different size holes. If you're saying the earliest vans had 6 different variations again then I didn't know that. Sounds a nightmare. How does anyone get the right frame? Are new ones all still available?

#11 Re: Maintenance » Speedo, Odometer & trip Meter Stopped Working. » 2024-08-18 15:30:45

OAT wrote:

The parts situation with these vans is ridiculous.  One of the reasons my local garage won't do the subframe is they expect it won't be the right one when it comes and they would be a ramp down with my van in bits till they found the correct one.

That's easy. Getting the correct frame is just a case of ordering for the correct year. 2002 onwards vans have different sized holes at end of frame arms and slightly different torque rod bracket. See Ebay for different subframes.

Scudo-Subframe-Bolt-Holes-2002-On.jpg

Scudo-Subframe-Bolt-Holes-2.jpg

#12 Re: Maintenance » Speedo, Odometer & trip Meter Stopped Working. » 2024-08-18 15:22:02

Casper wrote:

If this happened when you pressed the trip reset button then would the issue not be a stuck press switch? Either your push button or the pressure pad on the clocks circuit board??

I didn't touch the trip button. I was just driving down the motorway - one minute my speedo was working, the next it wasn't.

The Speed sensor has at least four functions as far as I can make out. It runs speedo, odometer, trip and sends speed info to the ECU so it can adjust fuelling, etc settings so engine runs properly. I had no speedo, odometer or trip and my engine wasn't running quite right.

If I had just pressed the trip button and it was only the trip that stopped working, you might have been right.

#13 Re: Maintenance » Speedo, Odometer & trip Meter Stopped Working. » 2024-08-04 11:21:33

Update>>>>

Recently I ordered the correct shaft with gear on end that fits into the new speed sensor from company in Italy. It has the corrrect square hole in the end that fits the square drive up inside the new Febi sensor. Yesterday I went back for the third time to the rent a a ramp place in Cheltenham and fitted the new sensor and it's new shaft and topped up the gearbox oil with the same quantity that came out while old sensor was removed from hole in diff. Went without a hitch and that's how it could have gone on day one, if the manufacturers hadn't slightly altered a part that you don't find out about until you pull things apart and oil is draining out.

What gets me, is after extensive Googling, I can find no reference to there being any changes to this part or alternatives being available.

What with the fiasco recently with the cv boot (I gave that a good inspection too while up on the ramp and can report that boot number 7 is still in place and fastened) which is quite a basic job, plus a seemingly routine sensor swap, this van has certainly tried my patience. Still, it's been completely reliable over my 17 years of ownership, so not bad overall.

Having to drive from Bristol to Cheltenham to the rent-a-ramp place and pay to use ramp each time - probably would have been cheaper to take it to main stealer and get them to replace sensor. But once you start, you're committed (or perhaps I should be after this!). You live and learn!

As I was fitting the sensor, I still had the nagging doubt that after all this, it still might be something else at fault. However, as I drove away from the ramp garage, the speedo needle came to life to my great relief. For the first time since March, I now have a working speedo, odometer and trip meter. The slight hesitancy/jerkiness in low gears at lower speeds has now disappeared and engine runs perfectly as I assume the ECU is now getting some info from the new working sensor that it needs. I'm hoping my MPG will now go back up a bit as it seemed to drop since the  sensor went out.

I now can claim to be an expert on Scudo/Expert/Dispatch speed sensors.   cool

Thanks to everyone for your help and advice. Until the next time.................

#14 Re: Maintenance » Speedo, Odometer & trip Meter Stopped Working. » 2024-06-29 00:15:27

RegW wrote:

I'd be careful about sticking your finger in a hole where it may get trapped in gears.
I'd lift the nearest wheel and use a mirror/torch sort of thing to see if the gear turns whilst the wheel is
being turned.
I'm still not convinced the sender drive shaft is supposed to be friction driven.
Never seen that and even if it was true it would prone to all sorts of potential errors and faults.

Not sure I would get my head up there and be able to see into hole, even with mirror. There are crossmembers or parts of subframe running directly below the sensor hole/diff, and the hole itself is angled upwards. Wouldn't do it with engine running, just see if the gear is secure on it's shaft with finger and has no sideways movement. Hoping it's not that, as the gearbox was out and apart only 18 months ago. Still, would give me a chance to put a new subframe in if it has to come out again.   smile    I'm guessing the diff and gearbox have to come out as one unit.

Ordered a new, genuine gear shaft for sensor today, so will get the new sensor and shaft fitted. As sensor has square drive and new shaft has square hole, it should be a match made in heaven! Then hopefully all systems go. Unless any problems with gear inside diff. Or any other problems.   sad

I'll be back!

#15 Re: Maintenance » Speedo, Odometer & trip Meter Stopped Working. » 2024-06-28 15:26:41

Doing some more reading on the subject, it looks like the gear in the diff that drives the sensor gear shaft can become detached. One thing I didn't check. Suppose when I go back to finish sensor job, I should put my finger in the hole in diff and see if all is well? Bit like a prostate examination at the quack's.    yikes

#16 Re: Maintenance » Speedo, Odometer & trip Meter Stopped Working. » 2024-06-25 23:15:07

RegW wrote:

It seem an awful expenditure of time and money renting a ramp
in Cheltenham.
If its the Alstone lane place, that's 40 miles from me in Fishponds
so 2 hours of driving and 2 gallons of deisel plus ramp rental
I'd just get my guy around the corner to do it and it would cost
me £40 for an hours labour.

Yes, tell me about it. The way it's going, would have been cheaper just to hand it over to main dealer and tell them to get on with it. Yes, the one in Alstone. Do you have a reliable garage? I'm always on the lookout for reliable places. Do as much as I can myself. Have used Renatec by the park in Brislington on Bath Rd, but they got unreliable in the end.

Can't speak highly enough of Gloucester Rd Gearboxes. I had a leaking box and selection problems (was tricky to get into first and second) and the main crank seal behind flywheel was weeping when they opened it all up. Resealed the box and did all the other things. Been perfect since, gearbox good as new. Put new genuine set of cables on it myself. They've also done one or two not strictly gearbox jobs for me when I've been short of time.

Anyway, I'm committed (at least I may be committed after this episode   sad   ). Had a look inside old sensor to see if anything had snapped off end of shaft and was stuck up inside. Could see something up inside and could move it a bit with a small screwdriver. Tried everything to get it out, in the end I cut open the sensor. There definitely isn't a square drive or piece that would fit around a square drive in there. There is a small wheel in there that spins and has a plastic pin on it in middle that just makes contact with the end of the shaft. Nothing definite to lock end of shaft to the wheel. Must just be pressure. Will try to post up pics. The shaft turns this wheel that has lines on the back that are picked up by something on the back of the 3 electrical pins to give pulses.

So that's it, the way the gear shaft looks on the end is how it should be. Nothing broken off. No square drive. I was never going to be able to fit that shaft up inside the new sensor. I don't understand because all reference online points to sensors and shafts with square drives - which mine don't have. Maybe I can just get one of those new shafts with square hole in end and fit it to my new Febi sensor. I need a lie down!!!

#17 Re: Maintenance » Speedo, Odometer & trip Meter Stopped Working. » 2024-06-25 16:49:21

RegW wrote:

FYI
this place sells a new shaft for 65 PLN or £12.76

http://iveco-ducato.com/make.asp?t=5&br … NIK%C3%93W

Had a look at the shaft in the link. Though it is the same part number, it is different from mine as mine has a recess in end of shaft - one in photo has what look like a raised plastic insert.

I'll have a good look up inside the sensor hole in case maybe there's something stuck up there.

#18 Re: Maintenance » Speedo, Odometer & trip Meter Stopped Working. » 2024-06-25 16:46:00

RegW wrote:

I know this is a massive ballache for you
having what should be a simple job made such a PITA

But I'm still wondering what drives/drove the pulser?
your shaft has no inner plastic looking insert as per my previous pic and your sender doesn't seem to have a square drive
so how did it work?

I'll hazard some guesses:
The insert broke away and is stuck inside the pulser thereby concealing it
or bits fell off as it was removed?
You may need a new shaft as well if this the case but I'd rebuild it with epoxy
cos I'm a cheap bastard and hate to spend when I can fix it myself

It may be my imagination but there seems to be an echo of a square in the pic of the end your shaft
is that original material or gunk stuck in there?
try picking it out and see what you find

Thanks again. Yes, this is taking a stupid amount of my time. I tried picking at the end of the shaft with a sharp pointed bradawl. The slight recess in the end seems to be metallic if i scratch it. I'm wondering if there are magnets in the shaft because it's poss hollow with something inside. I do see the echo of a square in end of shaft that you are seeing. I will have a good look and prod up inside sensor hole as apart from a quick look, I haven't really investigated that too much. Maybe there is a piece up inside.

The garage owner of the rent a ramp place seemed to think it was normal that it just spins, he did decscribe a name for how it works but I forgot.

#19 Re: Maintenance » Speedo, Odometer & trip Meter Stopped Working. » 2024-06-25 15:40:32

This is what it looks like inside the wrong Febi part, with a square drive up inside.

Scudo-Speed-Sensor.jpg

#20 Re: Maintenance » Speedo, Odometer & trip Meter Stopped Working. » 2024-06-25 15:38:41

RegW wrote:

Quote:did you swap over sender units?

I have temporarily fitted the new Febi one without the gear shaft so I can still drive the van and have the original to inspect. The photos below show the original shaft has no square hole in the end of it and other photo shows there's no square drive up inside the hole of sensor - though that photo isn't so clear.

DSC01874.jpegDSC01875.jpeg

#21 Re: Maintenance » Speedo, Odometer & trip Meter Stopped Working. » 2024-06-25 11:13:52

Yes, that's the problem I have. Access is very difficult without it up on a 2 poster. Then there's the loss of geabox oil each time it's removed.

I may soon be back to you for more details on how to do the pin 9 test, such as exactly which LED/resistor I would need and where to source, how to find pin 9, how to attach LED, etc, etc. I'm not really knowlegeable on these things.

I seem to remember clock removal being a bit of a pain when I replaced some of the small bulbs that illuminated the dials few years ago. Having to remove lower dash panels, trying to reach that odd trumpet screw under left side of binnacle.


I'm thinking it's not the clocks that are at fault. This is because at the same time as the speedo, odometer and trip stopped working, I started getting slight rough running/hesitancy in lower gears at lower speeds. Also I think my MPG dropped. This leads me to think that the ECU isn't getting the correct info to run engine properly.

#22 Re: Maintenance » Speedo, Odometer & trip Meter Stopped Working. » 2024-06-23 22:48:37

RegW wrote:

It's worth checking you are getting power to the sender just in case
The 3 pin plug should have 12v at pin 1 and ground at pin 2
with signal out at pin 3
It will hard to check for signal out with out actually driving but ignition on
should show power at the plug.

My Peugeot wiring diagram shows it gets power from Fuse 4 in the passenger fuse box
I know they're all essentially the same but there are variations
I used the DW10 diagram

Great info, diagrams, etc. Many thanks. I'll check that fuse no. 4 before I set out tomorrow, assuming it only powers the sender. When I get it up on the ramp I will check sender for earth continuity and power with ignition on.

May poss be difficult to test the pulse, as guessing it would need the front wheels turning to get an output. Then where could I test - guessing at ECU G2 pin? But I wouldn't know if you could test that pin with the connector to ECU still in place - which would be needed for engine to run.

#23 Re: Maintenance » Speedo, Odometer & trip Meter Stopped Working. » 2024-06-22 15:57:59

Thanks again Reg, useful info. Not sure if you could actually dismantle the part, it's moulded plastic and bonded together.

I just hope I wasn't rushing yesterday at the garage, and there isn't actually a square drive which may have snapped off inside the sensor and poss be stuck in the end of the metal shaft. Now wish I'd just bunged the new sensor in without shaft and had the old sensor and shaft in front of me to thoroughly inspect in the cold light of day. Problem is I can't easily access it on home ramps and I lose a lot of gearbox oil each time the sensor is pulled out.

So up to Cheltenham on Monday to put it on ramps and fish out the old sensor and shaft and temporarily fit the new sensor. Then bring it all home to inspect and see what's going on. Crazy waste of time!

#24 Re: Maintenance » Speedo, Odometer & trip Meter Stopped Working. » 2024-06-22 13:16:19

Thanks Reg for your help and info. The keyways you refer to don't have any purpose. The part where the keyways are to sides of hole doesn't move. The shaft is just a plain rod without any keyways/ridges on it. The vital bit is up inside the hole. In your lower pic, that's what it looks like inside my new Febi/wrong sensor - ie. the square drive up inside that mine doesn't have - just an empty hole. The square shaft stops the shaft going far enough up into the hole(original shaft being used, new Febi sensor isn't supplied with one).

Anyway, I'm going back to rent a ramp place on Monday. Going to pull out the old sensor and shaft, and temporarily fit the new wrong sensor without the gear shaft. Then I will have my old sensor and shaft to hand to properly inspect and match up with a new replacement.

Phoned Fiat dealer and they can supply one in 10 days for £130 plus VAT (Febi one was only £32 delivered). But who's to say the Fiat part is the same one as my original? The part number is the same part number that the wrong Febi sensor is supposed to be compatible with.

#25 Re: Maintenance » Speedo, Odometer & trip Meter Stopped Working. » 2024-06-22 02:01:16

RegW wrote:

If your current sender doesn't have a square drive how does the gearbox drive the
pulser at the top of the sender?

Is it possible yours has broken off?
perhaps it broke off and dropped down into shaft (no1) in the drawing
and you didn't notice this due to age, oil, muck etc

Thanks Reg. Didn't know there were any other Bristolians on here.

The shaft/gear - part number 1 in diagram - doesn't have a square hole in the end of it. The end of the shaft that goes into sensor is solid, nothing to fit over a square drive. Don't know how it drives the pulser, maybe it's magentic or hall sensor that detects the spinning shaft.

Wish I had my camera with me when I pulled it out.

Maybe this one - no square drive inside -

https://www.onbuy.com/gb/p/new-engine-r … p61884823/

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