[WTB] Snorkel for a driver, leak from outside in a footwell

AlvyLad · 2023-08-04 19:46:00

Hi guys,
I'm sure fairly recently saw a post about a leak inside cab... just can't find it, hence new post.
Yesterday, found significant puddle inside a cabin, thought of changing footwear in to wellies and buying a snorkel if it continues so for an emergency big_smile

Wanted to ask for some input from you guys, what's what and if repairs possible

AlvyLad · 2023-08-04 20:00:28

So gone out today (wasn't raining) to see, what's gone wrong.
Obvious suspect was the design flaw in having LHS vent where it is and once lifted

Clearly the "no s4it Sherlock" moment- that's it!

Water is still there or from the night before, little bit inside (on in the LHS footwell ) and I do remember seeing little bit in the past... as well as reading on this forum, as that's more or less normal.... but...

Why now, why so much?

and never spotted before "culprit" seems to be self explanatory why. Strange didn't see it before, but my excuse was always to blame air vent design, so I'm thinking to clean it and to get some lead sealant "silicone" to cover the gap....

BUT ... what repair would be better? as it clearly doesn't solve my long standing issue of the hole for the water to get inside....

AND makes me wonder, as if some sort of "draining outlet" on the fan wasn't left unconnected or something, since having had bit of an Odyssey AKA "monkey wrench work" done replacing the blower fan.

????
Any ideas guys?

Last edited by AlvyLad (2023-08-04 20:03:25)

Casper · 2023-08-04 20:54:02

Doubt that last one is your issue. Is the screen not bonded?

Casper · 2023-08-04 20:57:42

You should have two rubber hoses at the top of each side of bulkhead. Make sure they are not blocked as the water will fill up and come in through heater vents.

AlvyLad · 2023-08-04 21:35:28

Casper wrote:

You should have two rubber hoses at the top of each side of bulkhead. Make sure they are not blocked as the water will fill up and come in through heater vents.
https://i.postimg.cc/N0DyMzs6/20160817-134236-1.jpg

Hmhm
Thanks m8, I'll get back on it tomorrow

AlvyLad · 2023-08-04 21:37:26

Casper wrote:

Doubt that last one is your issue. Is the screen not bonded?

Has been... Not no longer ops

Casper · 2023-08-04 22:45:50

This picture. I am not convinced this is the issue. (Yellow arrow) Why is it still dry but under the intake its wet?? My thinking is white arrow. This seem could be leaking down into the cab. For the sake of 15 quid get a large bottle of Captain Tolley. Its a very fine white liquid that gets in the smallest of cracks and expands as it dries making a permanent seal. Park one side into the kerb to allow the liquid to get deep into the corners. Run a bead along the seal and give it half an hour and give another bead. Give that a few hours and stick the other side in the kerb and repeat.

I now own an LDV Convoy mate. They are prone for leaks what i have cured with great success. For fine leaks this stuff is the dogs bollocks

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Captain-Tolley … XHWC&psc=1

kenbw2 · 2023-08-05 03:32:20

Casper wrote:

For the sake of 15 quid get a large bottle of Captain Tolley. Its a very fine white liquid that gets in the smallest of cracks and expands as it dries making a permanent seal. Park one side into the kerb to allow the liquid to get deep into the corners. Run a bead along the seal and give it half an hour and give another bead. Give that a few hours and stick the other side in the kerb and repeat.
I now own an LDV Convoy mate. They are prone for leaks what i have cured with great success. For fine leaks this stuff is the dogs bollocks

Interesting, I could do with this to fix the leaks in my roof that I would never in a million years track down

Does it clean off? If it doesn't leave a mess I could just pour it into the roof rack gutters and let gravity do the rest

Casper · 2023-08-05 09:10:01

kenbw2 wrote:

Interesting, I could do with this to fix the leaks in my roof that I would never in a million years track down
Does it clean off? If it doesn't leave a mess I could just pour it into the roof rack gutters and let gravity do the rest

I never had to clean it as i used it on the inside where a fiberglass roof meets the steel sides of the bus. As it was getting cladding i just left it but, It is a white liquid that you can wipe away excess with a damp cloth and any dry spills can be washed away using white spirits.

Horses mouth

https://www.sailrite.com/PDF/Captain_To … mation.pdf

AlvyLad · 2023-08-05 17:01:18

Casper wrote:

https://dispatchexpertscudo.org.uk/foru … A2XsoI.jpg

This picture. I am not convinced this is the issue. (Yellow arrow) Why is it still dry but under the intake its wet?? My thinking is white arrow. This seem could be leaking down into the cab. For the sake of 15 quid get a large bottle of Captain Tolley. Its a very fine white liquid that gets in the smallest of cracks and expands as it dries making a permanent seal. Park one side into the kerb to allow the liquid to get deep into the corners. Run a bead along the seal and give it half an hour and give another bead. Give that a few hours and stick the other side in the kerb and repeat.
I now own an LDV Convoy mate. They are prone for leaks what i have cured with great success. For fine leaks this stuff is the dogs bollocks
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Captain-Tolley … XHWC&psc=1

Thanks mate,
It's been raining all morning and most of the day over here, cab is full of water again

.... and i'm "bit under the weather" from the night before...

ANW:
Outlet hose seem to be blocked and it's been hard in places, that I've squeezed, shaken a but it's WAY higher, than "dish" within a tray (that's for whipper housing for the wrong side steering wheel cars)

However, there's another outlet, that I can't even get to, something where blower fan is and wing meets area.... seems I can't get to

right behind, where eye could see or camera can get to

and good god (me) in doing photo-reporting- that way I can see better too big_smile

hope you guy can see 1/2" puddle

so back in a cab, I can see water dripping right through the wires

AlvyLad · 2023-08-05 18:04:04

"the problem" with my photo-investigations- it takes me longer to write all up, redo photos, upload etc...
In short- FIXED!

steering wheel hard R, this is the drain outlet on LHS

Indeed it was blocked, squished little etc

...and the actual drain in located

so then better check RHS too

properly zoomed in

I swear over an inch of a puddle

steering wheel hard L, RHS drain

"Moral of the story" AKA "fix" is to squish deliberately self closing outlet pipes in to a "diamond", squeeze as hard as you can so all the goo both ways,

lift bonet, take the air-vents out and clean inlets with a cloth or a brush, get a bucket of water to flush it all through.

hope that's been that and inside of my cab will dry out eventually... as all the sound defining is proper saturated under the both sides

kenbw2 · 2023-08-05 20:45:32

Well I've learned a lot from this post - namely where the blower gets its inlet, and why water can so easily enter there!

Glad you got to the bottom of that.

Dare I suggest you might want to dry out the floor mat. It's quite the sponge neutral

AlvyLad · 2023-08-06 16:06:56

kenbw2 wrote:

Well I've learned a lot from this post - namely where the blower gets its inlet, and why water can so easily enter there!
Glad you got to the bottom of that.
Dare I suggest you might want to dry out the floor mat. It's quite the sponge

I bet there are very many vans with bit of the water getting in, nobody paid attention... until that would become as bad as I had

Drying?... just too much of an hassle mate, hope it'll dry up by itself, as the only way to squeeze it properly to dry is to remove the whole lining... not keen, lazy etc etc.
mind you, the weather we had was nice and warm, so had to go shopping and inside surface was dry, but humidity and stench is bit of something to get acclimatized to. Reminds me of a trip to India, pardon my French, that feel.

Mixerfistit · 2023-09-01 00:18:07

Wish I'd seen this when it was posted I could've saved you a lot of time lol

Having noticed blocking up on my old xsara picasso, one of the first things I did after buying my van was pop those pipes open and flushed hot water down then. One wasn't too bad but the other (also LHS) glugged out a fair bit of sludge.

JohnDragonMan · 2023-09-01 16:59:22

i want the pollen filter housing that fits in this part. ive been after one for ages but can never get them. i have the filters, just need the "thing" they sit in.

AlvyLad · 2023-09-01 18:16:19

Mixerfistit wrote:

Wish I'd seen this when it was posted I could've saved you a lot of time lol

BUT YOU DIDN'T! mad
big_smile

AlvyLad · 2023-09-01 18:23:12

JohnDragonMan wrote:

i want the pollen filter housing that fits in this part. ive been after one for ages but can never get them. i have the filters, just need the "thing" they sit in.

Very likely I'm wrong, but I think some models in a Cab (not a van) version did come with polen filters (and fittings)

Pathfinder100 · 2024-03-27 16:36:45

Mine has this problem. Thanks for your writeup. So far I've cut out a chunk of the rubber stuff and put it to dry. I'm manually mopping up the water as it comes out of the insulation, but everything is wet. It will take a while to dry it out.

I'll probably remount the rubber on velcro so it can be removed and checked if needed.

Last edited by Pathfinder100 (2024-03-27 16:38:09)

AlvyLad · 2024-03-27 21:01:09

Pathfinder100 wrote:

Mine has this problem. Thanks for your writeup. So far I've cut out a chunk of the rubber stuff and put it to dry. I'm manually mopping up the water as it comes out of the insulation, but everything is wet. It will take a while to dry it out.
I'll probably remount the rubber on velcro so it can be removed and checked if needed.
https://i.ibb.co/Q84wKV5/IMG-20240326-135510.jpg

... bit OTT, if you'd ask me... but works?- so be it!
I have had it sorted (stop spillage- "leaks") when it was dry'ish, warm'ish... eventually most of the stench gone, thank goodness... or me losing a smell tongue

Pathfinder100 · 2024-03-28 00:39:41

Yeah I couldn't get rid of the water and it seemed to be getting deeper at the time, so decided to trim it and drain it. I was also concerned as to whether it had rusted. had a rust issue under the rubber carpet on my old Transit. Thought i'd better check this one before I had to weld anything, but it looks fine. tongue I can fix it later.

As to the cause, I suspect the same as yours, although i have been clearing the drain holes, the pipe is likely blocked lower down. I will check those drain holes at the bottom and see what the state of them is. smile

AlvyLad · 2025-12-11 18:50:54

Just to say, that it "might" (not really) contributed to the demise off...
sad day it was, when I had to bid farewell in to eternity of scrappers paradise tongue

On a positive- always enjoy getting back to this board cool

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