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#1 2023-09-15 20:45:33

JohnDragonMan
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From: Derby, East Midlands, UK
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Instrument Cluster swapping out info.

so in my attempt for perfection i managed to get a instrument cluster from the people carrier version on our vans. (along with a few other bits)

its real nice, RPM gauge and what looks like a MPG computer also a coolant level indicator.. not just a "coolant low" light..  an actual gauge!

nice..


well i remove my instrument cluster, then try that one and...  the RPM gauge does not work. the MPG computer does not work too but everything else does! sadly not what i was hoping for..
so i have installed my original clocks back.

it does appear that clocks are not plug and play between all vehicles. even though the plugs do fit.

so if anyone else has the idea to swap out the clocks for more fancy clocks..  i am sorry to inform of the bad news but they wont work.

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- JohnDragonMan
Notice: I have the tendency to void warranties, blow fuses, cause fires, and other fun stuff.
Words of wisdom: Internally rust proof the sills and subframe! both skins!!. There's always user serviceable parts inside. "Oh that shouldn't have happened".
My Crazy Mk2 2005 Dispatch Camper Project big_smile

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#2 2023-09-16 13:14:58

kenbw2
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Re: Instrument Cluster swapping out info.

Yea a couple of years ago I bought one of these hoping I'd get some of the fancypants Synergie features, but it wasn't to be sadly

I'm guessing "everything else" working doesn't include that extra fancy oil level gauge?


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#3 2023-09-16 18:54:39

JohnDragonMan
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Re: Instrument Cluster swapping out info.

the one at the bottom of the RPM gauge? yeah that worked!


- JohnDragonMan
Notice: I have the tendency to void warranties, blow fuses, cause fires, and other fun stuff.
Words of wisdom: Internally rust proof the sills and subframe! both skins!!. There's always user serviceable parts inside. "Oh that shouldn't have happened".
My Crazy Mk2 2005 Dispatch Camper Project big_smile

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#4 2023-09-16 19:11:43

Casper
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From: East Lothian
Registered: 2015-12-20
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Re: Instrument Cluster swapping out info.

Cant the rev counter work from a signal wire taken off the alternator or possibly the OBD port.

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#5 2023-09-20 15:12:27

vaz2121
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From: Glasgow Living:~ SW. Scotland
Registered: 2015-08-31
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Re: Instrument Cluster swapping out info.

I have had a workig rev counter on my phone with a torque app and a blue tooth eml327 in obd port

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#6 2023-09-20 17:13:00

AlvyLad
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Re: Instrument Cluster swapping out info.

@vaz2121
Huh, since my hybridisation ("installing" a tablet) I wonder, if I should get ODB reader (manager), that would be bluetooth compatible and if to do so, what should I get?
Is it any of these?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/354864497400
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wonolo-Bluetoo … 07VXV5HQX/
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07LDDWTJG/
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/235178325129
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282271037782
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275393758132
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275754249571
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/155478801383
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/164795295712

Edit: (waited for almost an hour big_smile ) as I did "research" and ... considering I know ever so little about all of it, so splashed out for this one https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/364296855980

Will let you know how am I getting on with it

Last edited by AlvyLad (2023-09-20 19:46:07)

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#7 2023-09-30 13:17:57

AlvyLad
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Re: Instrument Cluster swapping out info.

vaz2121 wrote:

I have had a workig rev counter on my phone with a torque app and a blue tooth eml327 in obd port

Mate, I'd love linkies to apps you are using please?
(tried x4 off, either don't connect at all or want money for any functionality)
Thanks!

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#8 2023-10-01 12:15:57

Mixerfistit
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Re: Instrument Cluster swapping out info.

I have an odb reader and link it to my android head unit. Can leave it on dashboard mode for revs and speed etc. Speed displayed isnt offset for the usual 2 mph they put on the speedometer so assuming wheels and tyres are correct, it's the real speed.

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#9 2023-10-01 15:00:28

AlvyLad
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Re: Instrument Cluster swapping out info.

Mixerfistit wrote:

I have an odb reader and link it to my android head unit. Can leave it on dashboard mode for revs and speed etc. Speed displayed isnt offset for the usual 2 mph they put on the speedometer so assuming wheels and tyres are correct, it's the real speed.

Which app is it again?

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#10 2023-10-01 21:32:36

Mixerfistit
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Re: Instrument Cluster swapping out info.

I use Obdlink as I have an Obdlink Lx but it'll only work with obdlink hardware. The Torque app works for any hardware as far as I know.

Having recently upgraded to an obdlink MX+ (more functionality for mazda and fords) I also use other apps like Forscan for diagnostics (when I don't need to break out the lexia for PSA stuff).

Edit to clarify that the obdlink app only works with obd link hardware

Last edited by Mixerfistit (2023-10-04 23:20:58)

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#11 2023-10-03 17:06:30

Mixerfistit
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Re: Instrument Cluster swapping out info.

This is how mine looks at the moment. 20231003_170043.jpeg

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#12 2023-10-03 18:56:52

AlvyLad
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Re: Instrument Cluster swapping out info.

Mixerfistit wrote:

This is how mine looks at the moment. https://dispatchexpertscudo.org.uk/foru … 70043.jpeg

Posh, but your Tesla display is in wrong place! I got it
https://dispatchexpertscudo.org.uk/foru … hp?id=1789 just self adhesive velcro is needed.
ANW, can you split that, so the other part would be navigation?

(Hope) tomorrow I'll have my van back to see what can be done with the apps you are using

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#13 2023-10-04 23:18:58

Mixerfistit
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Re: Instrument Cluster swapping out info.

AlvyLad wrote:
Mixerfistit wrote:

This is how mine looks at the moment. https://dispatchexpertscudo.org.uk/foru … 70043.jpeg

Posh, but your Tesla display is in wrong place! I got it
https://dispatchexpertscudo.org.uk/foru … hp?id=1789 just self adhesive velcro is needed.
ANW, can you split that, so the other part would be navigation?

(Hope) tomorrow I'll have my van back to see what can be done with the apps you are using


It was a relatively pricey addition but was a much lower than RRP ebay purchase a while ago (it's survived a few Citroëns so far). It's a proper head unit so will play background audio/radio and you can also split screen (side by side), also has built in steering wheel controls function so didn't need my old connect interface or whatever it was called.

I do like your linked solution, shame about the vent though, that plastic is so brittle sad mine was already shattered when I bought the van but was lucky enough to get one from my doner vehicle

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