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#1 2024-06-02 00:49:02

woodbine
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From: Bristol, UK
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2004 Scudo 2.0 Jtd SX - 8v or 16v?

I've had my van for 17 years, so I feel like I should know this. I always assumed it was 8 valve engine, but when I put my reg in oil checkers and parts finders, etc it comes up with 16 valve. I just wondered if this was right, and how I can check without pulling the head off.

Thanks for any help.


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#2 2024-06-02 01:57:53

kenbw2
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Re: 2004 Scudo 2.0 Jtd SX - 8v or 16v?

woodbine wrote:

how I can check without pulling the head off.

Kids these days, always wanting the easy way out  tongue


2000 Citroen Dispatch 1.9TD XUD9 Camper Conversion
1999 Citroen Dispatch 1.9D DW8 Disassembled Camper Conversion
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#3 2024-06-02 02:33:08

Casper
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Re: 2004 Scudo 2.0 Jtd SX - 8v or 16v?

kenbw2 wrote:
woodbine wrote:

how I can check without pulling the head off.

Kids these days, always wanting the easy way out  tongue

I blame the educational system. They must sadly only teach them to count to eight sad

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#4 2024-06-02 06:19:02

AlvyLad
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Re: 2004 Scudo 2.0 Jtd SX - 8v or 16v?

Casper wrote:
kenbw2 wrote:
woodbine wrote:

how I can check without pulling the head off.

Kids these days, always wanting the easy way out  tongue

I blame the educational system. They must sadly only teach them to count to eight sad

The feeling is mutual, feels like whole country past pivotal point and is rolling backwards

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#5 2024-06-02 12:08:55

woodbine
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Re: 2004 Scudo 2.0 Jtd SX - 8v or 16v?

I'm guessing a 16V would have twin cams? But I don't know about these things.

Last edited by woodbine (2024-06-02 12:41:32)


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#6 2024-06-02 13:59:50

RegW
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Re: 2004 Scudo 2.0 Jtd SX - 8v or 16v?

When I recently bought my 2006 Expert I was told it had a 16V engine  but
I'm not sure how to confirm this either.

Its down as 2.0 HDI and has RHZ designation in the logbook not sure where the engine number is
on the block but the logbook says the engine number begins with DYUU

Apparently the 16vs have twin cams, the primary driven by the cambelt like the others
and the other camshaft driven by a chain under the rocker cover.

Edit:

Going by this wiki page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSA_EW/DW_engine#DW10

I suspect I have the 8v
"DW10 ATED / RHZ     109 PS (80 kW; 108 hp)    
common rail Turbo-diesel air/air exchanger catalyst"

I'm fine with that, it goes well enough for me as its pretty lively when you put your foot down
and I want reliability and decent economy from this old thing over more power.

Last edited by RegW (2024-06-02 14:23:26)


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#7 2024-06-02 19:23:22

AlvyLad
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Re: 2004 Scudo 2.0 Jtd SX - 8v or 16v?

RegW wrote:

When I recently bought my 2006 Expert I was told it had a 16V engine  but
I'm not sure how to confirm this either.

Its down as 2.0 HDI and has RHZ designation in the logbook not sure where the engine number is
on the block but the logbook says the engine number begins with DYUU

Apparently the 16vs have twin cams, the primary driven by the cambelt like the others
and the other camshaft driven by a chain under the rocker cover.

Edit:

Going by this wiki page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSA_EW/DW_engine#DW10

I suspect I have the 8v
"DW10 ATED / RHZ     109 PS (80 kW; 108 hp)    
common rail Turbo-diesel air/air exchanger catalyst"

I'm fine with that, it goes well enough for me as its pretty lively when you put your foot down
and I want reliability and decent economy from this old thing over more power.

17 year old got to be DW8 THE BEST engine, as all later ones "improved" so much it's poop.

DW8
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The DW8 is for all intents and purposes an evolution of the XUD9 and was the only diesel engine in the family not to feature a turbocharger or common-rail direct injection. It was mainly used in vans such as the Citroën Berlingo and Peugeot Partner but can also be found in more affordable versions of the Peugeot 206 and 306. The DW8 was phased out in 2007 as it does not pass Euro 4 emissions regulations (it is a Euro 3 engine[1]). The DW8 is matched to the BE manual 5-speed and has 127 N⋅m (94 lb⋅ft) of torque.[4]

Specifications

Displacement: 1.9 L (1,868 cc)

Valves: 8 valve, single overhead cam

Bore x Stroke: 82.2 mm × 88 mm (3.24 in × 3.46 in)

Compression Ratio: 23.0:1[5]

Power output: 71 PS (52 kW; 70 hp)

Torque: 127 N⋅m (94 lb⋅ft) at 2500 rpm

Production Start Date: 1 June 2000

OOps, didn't pay attension to the title
2004 Scudo 2.0 Jtd SX - 8v or 16v
https://www.carspecslab.com/fiat/scudo_2004/#engines
could be either

Last edited by AlvyLad (2024-06-03 01:04:49)

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