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#1 2016-10-07 09:28:49

Defnoexpert
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Rear doors keep opening while driving 2002 Expert

Hi there,

I have a 2002 expert, rear doors shut and lock fine, can't force open by hand without using handle. But when driving along the passenger side rear door opens by itself, luckily the other door prevents from opening completely. I read somewhere that the spring goes on the interior latch, which is possible as doesn't feel very 'springy'.

Does anyone know exactly what spring is needed to replace, looks like a torsion type but there's so many types online. And any advise on how easy it is to replace would be much appreciated

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#2 2016-10-07 10:01:32

Casper
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From: East Lothian
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Re: Rear doors keep opening while driving 2002 Expert

Go to the scrap yard and put another latch in your pocket  tongue My doors do the same and i have swapped over the latch and adjusted door height with no joy. What i ended up doing is drilling a hole in the floor just inside the door and pop riveted a dead bolt like these

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=slide … 66&bih=638

Get a thick strong one as mine is a small gate one and it still opens slightly but prevents the gap and rain getting in. Lager bolt is on my shopping list.

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#3 2016-10-07 16:13:31

Defnoexpert
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Re: Rear doors keep opening while driving 2002 Expert

Thanks Casper, I've just ordered a new interior latch of eBay......which apparently had a good spring. If that doesn't work I'll be trying your method

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#4 2016-10-17 15:58:53

Casper
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Re: Rear doors keep opening while driving 2002 Expert

Defnoexpert wrote:

Thanks Casper, I've just ordered a new interior latch of eBay......which apparently had a good spring. If that doesn't work I'll be trying your method

How did you get on with a new latch? I just lost the rag with my lower one and binned it for a 12mm dead bolt. If the door vibrates open again ill stab the bas***d.  lol

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#5 2016-10-19 18:25:39

Tiree
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Re: Rear doors keep opening while driving 2002 Expert

Mine has always done this too so would like to know how you got on Defno

Annoying as hell!


2006 Citroen Dispatch 2.0HDi bought in July 2013 - Partial camper conversion ........

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#6 2016-11-03 14:40:21

tee_cee
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Re: Rear doors keep opening while driving 2002 Expert

Turns out this has been happening to me also.
Scares the life out of me because I have the bike rack and 2 bikes on the driver side door. So most of the time there is only the single latch at the top of the passenger side door holding the thing together.  With all the weight, if the doors burst open the door with the bikes would end up in the road.

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#7 2016-11-03 16:03:12

Casper
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Re: Rear doors keep opening while driving 2002 Expert

tee_cee wrote:

Turns out this has been happening to me also.
Scares the life out of me because I have the bike rack and 2 bikes on the driver side door. So most of the time there is only the single latch at the top of the passenger side door holding the thing together.  With all the weight, if the doors burst open the door with the bikes would end up in the road.

Take bottom latch out and replace with large deadbolt. I drilled the hole in the gap where the latch would pop into. Never had a problem since and the rattles have reduced.

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#8 2017-03-04 18:00:58

tee_cee
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Re: Rear doors keep opening while driving 2002 Expert

Managed to pick up a new replacement lock on eBay. The keeper has an extra spring on it that isn't on the original.
Just wondered if anyone has this, and what its for.
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#9 2017-03-11 13:27:58

tee_cee
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Re: Rear doors keep opening while driving 2002 Expert

Now that I've fitted the lock I can see that spring locates over the upper lock part. So it looks like it's designed to dampen out vibrations.
Time will tell if it works.

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My main concern was the door opening when the bikes were on the back, so as a precaution I've fitted a breakaway cable to the bike rack.

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#10 2017-03-13 20:20:39

Casper
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Re: Rear doors keep opening while driving 2002 Expert

But surely the doors would never part unless you pull open the handle.

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#11 2017-03-14 16:19:24

tee_cee
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Re: Rear doors keep opening while driving 2002 Expert

Casper wrote:

But surely the doors would never part unless you pull open the handle.

Usually not a problem, though with the bikes on the back there's a total of of 40kg extra weight hanging off the door.
I think that that could easily break the doors apart if the bottom and top locks had disengaged.

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#12 2017-09-24 20:52:41

wookey
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Re: Rear doors keep opening while driving 2002 Expert

Interesting that others have this. Mine does it too (or did, but not for a while actually). It lets diesel fumes in the back and when it was bad I got quite some complaints from people in the back. I have bike on the back doors too, but even though the bottom spring latch comes out, the doors stay together and the top latch stays in so I've never worried about the bikes swinging about. Maybe I should :-)

I've never understood quite what the failure is as the latch seems good and springy, yet somehow contrives to work its way out, sometimes on quite a short trip. I think the extra thickness of carpet I added didn't help (which raised the keeper), and it does seem to have gone away since I cut a bigger hole in the carpet so the latch keeper was mounted a couple of mm lower, in the original position.


1997 Expert self-built camper

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#13 2017-09-25 00:53:43

Tiree
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Re: Rear doors keep opening while driving 2002 Expert

wookey wrote:

I've never understood quite what the failure is as the latch seems good and springy, yet somehow contrives to work its way out, sometimes on quite a short trip.

Exactly this! The door closes very snugly, the bolt extends fully and there's no obvious play in any direction but the back doors pop out within 5 minutes of leaving the house.

I've never been able to fathom it.  I'm now considering adding an additional bolt as Casper suggested.


2006 Citroen Dispatch 2.0HDi bought in July 2013 - Partial camper conversion ........

mini_citroen-dispatch2.jpeg

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#14 2018-02-06 18:31:23

LR06
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Re: Rear doors keep opening while driving 2002 Expert

Mine also did this until I loosened off the bolts holding the top latch to the van, shifted it out a little bit and re-tightened it.  I think my doors were just on the edge of catching on the upper latch and, as it unlatched, it caused the bottom latch to let go, too.

  Anyway, I adjusted the top latch over a year ago and the doors have never come open again since.

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