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#1 2018-02-12 14:52:17

desert54
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2003 Dispatch 1.9D smoke when cold

Hi,

This is my first post on here so Hello from Somerset :-)

My 2003 1.9D Dispatch in smoking when cold and running a bit lumpy. One it's warmed up after 5 mins or so it runs fine and the smoke clears. It's been like this for at least a year or so. My mec has had it in and noticed there is some oil in the expansion tank. I'm not losing any water, there's no sign of water in the oil and it doesn't over heat. My mec thinks it's either a crack in the head, head gasket or a failed injector. But he's not sure.  It'd due a cam belt service so wanted to see if anyone can throw anymore light on it before I stump up the cash to do the cam belt. It's a great van and has served me well so happy to spend a few quid if need be to get it sorted.
 

Richard.

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#2 2018-02-12 16:29:58

kenbw2
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Re: 2003 Dispatch 1.9D smoke when cold

I had exactly that - oil in the coolant but no coolant in the oil. I suspected head gasket too, but thankfully it turned out to be a leaky oil cooler. Definitely worth trying before you start taking the head off.

Easy thing to try. When I did mine I documented it here: https://frenchcarforum.co.uk/forum/view … =3&t=58040

Smoke and lumpy when starting I had too, but that was unrelated. Like you say, it was fine once it was running and warmed up. I replaced my glow plugs (1 - 2 hour job) and it was instantly fixed.

Any questions let me know. I know it can be daunting trying things even if they're in theory straightforward.

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#3 2018-02-13 00:48:31

desert54
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Registered: 2018-02-11
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Re: 2003 Dispatch 1.9D smoke when cold

Thanks Ken for the quick reply...Yeah I'd be surprised if it was the head as its been the same for a year+ and not got any worse. I had the glow plugs replace a year ago so unless I've a faulty one it should rule that out. I've booked the cam belt
for monday. Fingers x'ed. I love the van, it's been brilliant!

Richard

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#4 2018-02-13 00:53:56

kenbw2
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Re: 2003 Dispatch 1.9D smoke when cold

One point on the glow plugs, I hear rumour of a possible issue where the glow plug ECU fails, it never shuts them off so they stay on forever. If that's the case they'd quickly burn out.

Get a multimeter on the plugs and see if there's a voltage on them about 10 minutes after starting


2000 Citroen Dispatch 1.9TD XUD9 Camper Conversion
1999 Citroen Dispatch 1.9D DW8 Disassembled Camper Conversion
1996 Peugeot 806 1.9TD XUD9 Spare vehicle
1998 Citroen Synergie 1.9TD XUD9 Snapped timing belt

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#5 2018-02-13 18:40:10

desert54
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Re: 2003 Dispatch 1.9D smoke when cold

Thanks ken.I'll pass that on to my mec....

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#6 2018-02-13 18:58:23

desert54
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Re: 2003 Dispatch 1.9D smoke when cold

kenbw2 wrote:

One point on the glow plugs, I hear rumour of a possible issue where the glow plug ECU fails, it never shuts them off so they stay on forever. If that's the case they'd quickly burn out.

Get a multimeter on the plugs and see if there's a voltage on them about 10 minutes after starting

I've also read that the timing could be slightly out and runs fine once warm because the electronics sort it out?

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#7 2018-02-13 20:39:03

kenbw2
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Re: 2003 Dispatch 1.9D smoke when cold

Mine's pre-electronic timing. My equivalent is a cold start advance cable, but mine's slack at super cold temps so is similarly having no effect. I suspected that too until the glow plug change fixed everything.

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2000 Citroen Dispatch 1.9TD XUD9 Camper Conversion
1999 Citroen Dispatch 1.9D DW8 Disassembled Camper Conversion
1996 Peugeot 806 1.9TD XUD9 Spare vehicle
1998 Citroen Synergie 1.9TD XUD9 Snapped timing belt

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