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#376 Re: Maintenance » Citroen Dispatch blower resistor issue? » 2022-10-14 13:52:35
Just to say it is fixed...'ish
my particular model had a 4 pin connector with 3 wires and part number 6441E3 evilBay "matchmaking" is a joke (2 fans bought and returned). Got one from EuroCarParts, that wasn't available on their site....
even with a new fan, mechanic couldn't get no power supply on- seemed terminal, just put the most bits back together and driving off (lost radio code) suddenly I've heard humming- (new) fan worked!... only the next morning to try to demystify windows- not again.
He reckons worth getting even a second hand panel with switches to see if it'll cure it, as the slider was broken when I bought the van.
the resistor/switch/and everything else is bit of a joke we've tried to have it "rig" to work- nope! fiddling with it got few wires loose, reconnected- still none
Resistor by itself to replace might be an option, although it would makes sense to replace whole motor (with resistor), in case one or the other failing.
#377 Re: General Discussion » citroen dispatch 2002 » 2022-10-06 21:29:49
#378 Re: Maintenance » Citroen Dispatch blower resistor issue? » 2022-10-06 21:15:04
It really shouldn't be this difficult.
Ooh boy, it is difficult! ?
The one, that I had delivered today, what eBay AND seller "confirmed" to fit- NOPE!
Bought another one... NOPE! cancelled order, as even though it says it'll fit- clearly won't!
I'll keep you guys posted ?
#379 Re: Maintenance » Citroen Dispatch blower resistor issue? » 2022-10-05 11:10:31
I may have missunderstood but are you saying that you need both a fan unit AND a resistor?
There is some strange marketing going on with these. A least three different sellers using identical adds
facepalm, I'm a wolly in thinking they were separate items...
If so, I was under the impression that the new units came with a resistor fitted. Mine did and it looks like those you listed do.
Waiting for a delivery of https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183709082426 part numberS 6441N4, 6441K5 and it seems with own resistor on it £34.50 all in- can't go wrong with that
I have tried to look up the new one I bought from ebay but it was so long ago it is not showing in my purchased items list. But neither of those you linked to look like mine. The shape of the rotor and rear cover moulding are different. But the resistor block is also totaly different. May be irrelevant variations?
For my sanity, please confirm, yours was a "bus" variant or MK1 please? I've checked on evilbay, given the reg to seller to double confirm fitment, as he does indeed has at least two variants what evilbay say- "fits", but clearly one of them doesn't
This is the one that looks visualy the same as mine:-
I didn't pay that much for it though. It was £30 - £40.
There is some strange marketing going on with these. A least three different sellers using identical adds
Not just evilbay, in general with Citroen parts it's very much a lottery, without a proper online fiche to check anything...
AND yes, them part numbers, often irrelevant, but sometimes crucial just a one number up or down and simply doesn't fit or malfuncion, I'll find out soon enough, will post back what's what.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183709082426 part number 6441J5 6441K5
This item fits 1 version(s) of the Citroën Dispatch 2004 Diesel Van 1.9 D 70 FWD -- BS_,BT_,BY_,BZ_ 1868cc 51KW 69HP WJY (DW8B);WJZ (DW8):
as it comes to the blower fan motor (WITH resistor), as what evilBay says "fits"
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185469006563 part numbers 6441.E0, 6441E0
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185469006563 part number 6441E0 (looks different, more than double the price of the one I've purchased)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185378675603 part number 6441E1
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185345700117 part number 6441E2
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/175209570553 Part number 6441E3
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/383732365085 PN 6441R5 says it'll fit, but clearly it is different shape from the one's that are likely to fit
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/154153282254 PN's 6441K5, 6441N4, 95668814, 6441J0, 6441.K5 but suddenly- does't fit ... but it refferes to the same part numbers, as what I've bought 6441J5,6441K5
and as it comes to resistor on it's own, from what had started around £130 mark and some are available for £18, again numbers, numbers, numbers, but no sense in to what really is going on or to be sure what one has, what will fit or not. 
#380 Re: Maintenance » Citroen Dispatch blower resistor issue? » 2022-10-04 14:46:19
did you test it with the engine running? as the fans only work when the engine is running. they are controlled by a relay in the outside fuse box under the bonnet may even be a fuse on it.. should be.. not sure which one even though i have had it all apart... i just cant remember.
if you do go down the "external speed controller" route and find you have no original blower motor power, you could wire in another relay driven from say the radio ignition live, switching a live directly from the battery with a 20 amp fuse in line (well its how i would do it, it would still turn off with the ignition key then).
the top one is the blower thats original. to bypass the resistor, just go directly into the 2 thickish wires. the red and black stripe and thick brown. they go directly to the brushes.for a second then i though you actually managed to find the rare 2nd blower motor for the models with air conditioning. ive been after a new one since i retrofitted aircon to my van! the blower motor i am using has over 400k miles on it! the commutator is badly worn.. its as thick as a match stick. looks like the brushes have been replaced more than once!
you are not near derby are you? would not take me long to wire it in as i know where everything is
wow man 
thanks!
Nope! engine wasn't running... :duh:
Indeed the plan "is" to get direct wires from battery (with a fuse) and as I'll have both (next to hazard light) speed knob on a dash board and a on-off switch leave the rest of the wire-loom alone...
Considering the "torture" with local monkeys and mechanics to be dealing with I'm thinking if to not to make a trip over to Derby, as I'm Guildford- Farnham (Surrey).
Cheers mate!
To get my blower to work (and to make sure the battery is charging) I have to rev her up a bit until I hear something (a relay?) click.
Duh again :facepalm:
Can we confirm, that these are wrong parts?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204075916403
Heater Blower Fan Resistor part 1267E3
and/ or https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/383732365085
Blower motor part 6441R5
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fan, blower motor part 6441N4
like https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183709082426
and Resistor part 6441F6
like https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153151941136
is needed to try to get it working in original configuration?
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Whilst I'm avoiding getting original resistor for now, will be trying to have fitted:
Just the new blower motor and the whole resistor/switches thingy, perhaps it'll leave wiring loom "unmollested" for in case the new one would fail in some or the other way to come back to
Thanks!
#381 Re: General Discussion » What size tyres » 2022-10-03 23:55:10
i put slightly wider tyres on my van by 10mm.. i like the idea of more rubber contacting the road surface. its something i have always done.
i also bought the best tyres i could. Michelin Agilis CrossClimate
see here:
https://dispatchexpertscudo.org.uk/foru … 8991#p8991
Geesus! I'm impressed 
#382 Re: Maintenance » Citroen Dispatch blower resistor issue? » 2022-10-03 22:03:42
Just to clarify and/ or to ask your expertise gents, mine is 2004 Dispatch "Enterprise 75" 1.9D non turbo
Managed to find a mechanic to start digging in to what's what on my van! 
(already had the resistor (with turning knob, switch and digital something https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/313935876217 ) to show)
Findings aren't good! not just the blower motor is dead (presume actual "Febi Interior Blower Resistor 37121" like https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204074770798 or others at ~£70+ ) the motor AND wiring connectors etc-
NO POWER supply to it either 
Don't want to buy a second had "kit" for about £70 to find it (the fan with resistor) packing up very soon either.
evil'Bay... damn just evil saying Resistor 1267E3 "would fit" my vehicle like https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185553307805 ... I mean 
surely it isn't it?
so the plan "I've" come up with : to have new blower fan as it's cheap like
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272846878551
OR???
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/383732365085 
and using "the thing" 
extend the connector wires to get the switch and knob to reach the dashboard (else it's too tricky) should solve everything
OR to get a resistor (either 37121 or 1267E3 depending what's needed- I'm asking you to clarify please) for the "redundancy" or even to restore it to original configuration... BUT - I have NO POWER in wiring to the fan either... 
Any sensible suggestions (or a pi55take) at my skills, (I'll need to book the job with mechanic) need idiot-proof plan, parts, solution are warmly welcomed gents?
Thank you!
#383 Re: General Discussion » Alloys » 2022-09-07 14:16:35
NOT (Alfa R 75 5x108 PCD). Alfa Romeo 166 16" 6.6J 5x98 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/it … 542025270/
@kenbw2 is selling https://dispatchexpertscudo.org.uk/foru … hp?id=1413 the same correct 5x98 for our vans to fit?
#384 Re: Maintenance » Citroen Dispatch blower resistor issue? » 2022-09-02 18:11:23
if you do go down the PWM route just get a cheap one from ebay. just make sure its above say 20 amps..
this one works well:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/313935876217
it works well!
Thank you very much!
I'll get it, then I'll take it to the mechanic to fit it, even with your instructions it shouldn't be that difficult... but never underestimate one being a wolly... just to be on a safe side 
#385 Re: Maintenance » Citroen Dispatch blower resistor issue? » 2022-08-28 00:36:31
Sounds like John's suggestion of a PWM controler would be good providing your issue is with the slider control not the resistor.
What happened with yours? Is it totaly packed up?
Mine was intermittent on different speeds till it stoped altogether. I was going to replace the resistor but ended up replacing whole blower unit with new resister included. Found a nos one on ebay for a little more than the price of a resister on it's own. I see some on there now between £30 - £40
It was intermittent at first on mine (slider was off when I bought the van), then last year or year before- packed up... got to the mechanic- over an hour of fiddling about and cleaned contacts all over solved it. His words- "with age, those motors wear out, become hard to turn, hence contacts burn off", so I just put slider on gentle blow setting and all was well until few weeks ago, (I think) I smelt something electrical going kaput and wouldn't hear fan no longer... checked fuses- none seemed burned, so it could be anything, but most likely, as you guys are saying the resistor issue. If that's the case, not so keen on eBaying and getting something, that'll pack up again soon (+ with my non skills= labour cost for a mechanic to sort it out) looking for a "magic wand", I am!
#386 Re: Maintenance » Citroen Dispatch blower resistor issue? » 2022-08-27 16:09:04
Very (too) technical for me this...
any "quick sensible" fixes about? with rain season coming soon, gonna have to fix it, but having too hands (both left) looking for something to get it fixed in accordance to my abilities?
#387 Re: General Discussion » Catalytic converter (part) of an exhaust » 2022-08-25 18:51:00
My back box on Van fell off a few years ago just before MOT time on a trip I seam to remember getting a cat back system for it from B&M exhausts who do a load of cats also.............
The only other thing I also seem to remember is the sleave didnt fit and was returned, I don't know if someone had been there before us ...........
We made our own conecting sleave in the end.........................I now seem to remember thinking thats a small diameter pipe......................
Daz rite! the thinner diameter one goes to catalytic converter to the front box connection. The bigger diameter goes to connect rear box with cat.... which hardly makes any sense, as pressure should be equal all the way (diameter), if anything after the cat it should become smaller to maintain equal pressure under the build up.. but hey- what do I know?
#388 Re: General Discussion » TEST! » 2022-08-25 18:44:07
I'll take the silence to mean the vans have been running smootlhly and noone has needed a hand with any problems!
Actually, it's been a good while since I've had an incident. Wait, don't say that out loud...
Lucky it's not many female posters here, would torture you for the "juicy bits" for days at the end
As it comes to blokes (or myself at least), seems you have already admitted the guilt, not big deal- happens to the best of us!
#389 Re: General Discussion » Veg oil prices » 2022-08-25 18:39:50
A Bosch pump should look a bit like
https://dispatchexpertscudo.org.uk/foru … -pump.jpeg
A lucas/Delphi type pump like
https://dispatchexpertscudo.org.uk/foru … i-Pump.jpgBoth are rotery pumps but the lucas version uses a diaphragm in it and is overal a weaker pump, Bosch is best option here for veg oil, An even better pump option for veg oil is an in line pump as used in old mercedes but we have to *iss with the *oc* we've got
Although I have a 306 Peogoet with a DW8 and a Bosch pump Im sure all DW8B engines have a lucas/Delphi pump my 2005 Van has basicly same engine as 306 but has a lucas/delphi pump fitted to the updated DW8B.............................. I am willing to be told otherwise about DW8B's and Bosch pumps from factory..................
A bosch pump should fit once clocked in bracket..................
Herm.. is it a boy or a girl? all them add-ons obstructing, so far I think it's a Bosch then on a 2004 non turbo (Enterprise 75) variant
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#390 Re: General Discussion » Catalytic converter (part) of an exhaust » 2022-08-16 13:16:06
They would surely cost £500 to have one specially made and being stainless, will outlive your van and possibly you as well.
with all the viruses etc- you might be spot on, there's a chance exhaust and van might outlive me
Just a bit of an observation about what exhaust parts (when getting)... somehow, if to go with original exhaust- it'll cost arm and a leg, if you can find it, but those last for years and years, however, any "aftermarket" ones will last 3 maybe up to 5 years at absolute best and looking at my front box- just hope to not to have it leaking and get MOT, but would make sense to replace even before that date + to get one of the known "better" makes, so they wouldn't rust away like crazy
#391 Re: Spare Parts » 1.9 d brake servo » 2022-07-30 22:53:04
(could be wrong or off topic... pardon me!), but
(again)... most likely your servo is fine, (again) I'd recommend checking up
https://dispatchexpertscudo.org.uk/foru … id=715&p=1
Isolate everything(EGR), but brake servo hoses
https://dispatchexpertscudo.org.uk/foru … id=715&p=2
I kinda hijacked the thread #41
That seems to have solved x-amount of all sorts of problems very many new threads get started and have been not even got back with results or troubles... presume- fixed
#392 Re: General Discussion » TEST! » 2022-07-26 23:22:15
It has gone quiet hasn't it. Well to get things moving here's the Southport Air Show atop my otherwise useless ladder
https://dispatchexpertscudo.org.uk/foru … 9_001.jpeg
Where I also found my van twin! Had a little latter with him and got very excited about the vans
Lovely scenery and past time may I say
?
#393 Re: General Discussion » Catalytic converter (part) of an exhaust » 2022-07-06 17:12:31
Option 2
Vehicle Specs
Euro Status:Euro 3
Date From:09/2001 Date To:01/2006
Engine Code:DW8Bhttps://i.imgur.com/B78fO7j.png
Cat Part Number 28613DFTR27 Exhaust Rubber Product Code: 712730216 or FTR27 Klarius Exhaust Rubber Product Code: 712730211
SLV4 Klarius Connecting Pipe Product Code: 712111350 or SLV4 Connecting Pipe Product Code: 712111356
x2 off SYA23 Klarius U ClampProduct Code: 712772100 or SYA23 U ClampProduct Code: 712772106
rear box (silencer) is CN461M Klarius Rear SilencerProduct Code: 705545831 1730L7
CN553D Klarius Front SilencerProduct Code: 703735031 1705NS
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The other option is, if you have catalytic converter at the front (most common configuration)
Vehicle Specs
Date From:05/2000
04/1998-12/2006
1705JN Front Catalytic converter, most will list with fitting kit Fitting Kit - FI6005T_KIT209 or 401557
1717K8 middle silencer box
1726HS Rear Exhaust Box End Silencer
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ANW, anyone that was interested in my "ventures":
Cat arrived first, but mounts took forever to be delivered, hence I ended looking for a garage (ramp really) on Friday and ended up with getting done, by some rip-off artist monkey wrench... with me assisting took 45mins, cost- £60 to replace middle catalytic converter whilst my regular garage mechanic had a laugh earlier about it, as I had a chat with, but he's too busy to do the job, but if I could've waited he said that was £40 worth of work at most.
#394 Re: General Discussion » Veg oil prices » 2022-06-30 18:58:05
Farmfoods at £1.08/litre
None are near me....'ish, as one in Basingstoke is almost 20 miles and Landan- I wouldn't just not go to (I live Guildford-Farnham, Surrey way)
Can't be that much of a difference I thought and remembering not being able to get to work, due to shortage of diesel I thought...
I think Sainsburys (at least) is on to you (and me) making it not wort it, perhaps as an emergency only.
BTW, wanted to find what pump is on my van (if it's Bosch or not)- couldn't see what make is it, is there a way to establish what one I got, so I'd know how much as a max I can mix veg oil to the parts of diesel?
#395 Re: Maintenance » Fiat Scudo Van 2006 Brake Issue » 2022-06-29 18:27:05
Isolate everything(EGR), but brake hoses
https://dispatchexpertscudo.org.uk/foru … id=715&p=1
I kinda hijacked the thread #41
https://dispatchexpertscudo.org.uk/foru … id=715&p=2
#396 Re: General Discussion » Veg oil prices » 2022-06-28 18:49:23
couple interesting videos on the subject
https://youtu.be/sbPxLm21gek
#397 Re: General Discussion » Catalytic converter (part) of an exhaust » 2022-06-28 15:45:59
Not exactly worthy sticky, as OE numbers are still different - mess!
ebay, kept saying I needed different exhaust configuration (the same as EuroCarParts (Type A)), by pictures I've established OE number 1705 NT to be identical to mine and then.... yes- plenty of correct Cats, but the rest is still somehow muddled up... as not all 1705NT are having the same designated part number 311691
Anyhow, ordered all bits and bobs, hopefully will get them tomorrow
(BTW 1705 NV is available on ebay too, but it's meant for the long wheel base model and... it says as about to fit my model too 
)
#398 Re: Maintenance » Citroen dispatch 1.9d 2006 won't stay running » 2022-06-27 18:37:39
Could be EGR
https://dispatchexpertscudo.org.uk/foru … id=715&p=1
but by no means I'm NOT an expert, have a read there isolate (both with locking pliers) and if no joy, someone might come up with better suggestions in the meantime
#399 Re: General Discussion » Catalytic converter (part) of an exhaust » 2022-06-27 17:35:22
found this
AUTOGEM CATALYTIC CONVERTER FITTING KIT
Part No :CESCK28570 £9.86 £5.42Your discount applied 45% OFF
Catalytic Converter Fitting Kit
CITROEN DISPATCH 1.9 D (04/98 - 10/06)
https://www.gsfcarparts.com/parts/body- … ust-system
Brand AUTOGEM
Unique Reference ZA054288
Width [mm] 150
Height [mm] 150
Length [mm] 1070
Weight [kg] 3.5
Exhaust Emission Norm 66
Additional Info with mounting parts
who knows? for the length- seems to be what's needed, for the price- suspect!?
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bit of a digging on EurCP
https://www.eurocarparts.com/exhaust-system
Vehicle Specs
Euro Status:Euro 3Date From:09/2001Date To:01/2006Engine Code:DW8B
Option 2
Cat Part Number 28613D
FTR27 Exhaust RubberProduct Code: 712730216 or FTR27 Klarius Exhaust RubberProduct Code: 712730211
SLV4 Klarius Connecting PipeProduct Code: 712111350 or SLV4 Connecting PipeProduct Code: 712111356
x2 off SYA23 Klarius U ClampProduct Code: 712772100 or SYA23 U ClampProduct Code: 712772106
#400 Re: General Discussion » Catalytic converter (part) of an exhaust » 2022-06-27 17:01:30
Hi guys, managed to make some photos worth an entry for a worse photographer of the year
Kinda in reverse (the shiny new bracket on extension is meant to be to the right (mid-box)
So overall, with connecting piece from the bracket of the "new" Mid-box to the bracket on the rear box (pipe, that's "cat-receiving")bracket is 1.050m or 1050mm