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#1 2021-12-29 17:51:18

Pathfinder100
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From: South Yorkshire
Registered: 2021-07-19
Posts: 296

Accessing the instrument cluster / removing the top dash

Has anyone done it, if so, how hard is it to do it?

I know JohnDragonMan did it for his A/C install and I have watched that video, but is there an easier way that would just allow me access to the instruments.  I need to patch out an annoying airbag light until I have time (and money) to strip the front of the van and try and work out what is b0rked. 

The MOT is in February and it's gone from being intermittent to being on all the time.  The problem is most likely the SRS system as it had an MOT fail for that two years ago, so my guess is whomever fixed it, bodged it and the bodge has now failed.  Weirdly enough, if I park pointing up a steep hill and start the engine, it doesn't come on.  Loose wire or connector maybe?  Anyway for now, I want to wire that light to the battery light, so it goes out when the engine has started (which should also allow it to pass MOT), assuming that is possible on this cluster.

TIA.


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#2 2021-12-30 03:19:55

JohnDragonMan
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From: Derby, East Midlands, UK
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Re: Accessing the instrument cluster / removing the top dash

you can just take the surround out.. no need to take apart the whole dash. you do have one annoying screw that you can only access from under the steering column surround..  so you do have to take that off.. and you need a really long extension to reach it..  i never bothered putting it back in.
the air bags are really simple on these.. you have one controller that sits under the floor between the 2 front seats (or under the middle seat). you can cut the carpet and make a flap (it does seal back nice) to get access to it (maybe water has gotten into it).
it could be a seat belt pretensioner on the seat belt spool that has got issues or it could be the drivers airbag clock spring that has failed. i would be tempted to start simple and just check the fuses. though just remember, a fuse blows for a reason.

the airbags connect to nothing outside of the cabbin. it works by the G sensor in the air bag module under the 3rd seat under the floor. (if you go under your van, you can see the dip between the 2 seat bolt holes where it is located)

hope this helps!

Last edited by JohnDragonMan (2021-12-30 03:21:56)


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#3 2021-12-30 22:28:04

Pathfinder100
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From: South Yorkshire
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Re: Accessing the instrument cluster / removing the top dash

It does, thanks.  I will look at the fuses first.  I read a post you made long ago about the airbag ecu location, but do want to take the seats out at some point and strip back the floor and see what state the metal is below it and whether it needs rust proofing (or maybe more work), but its a job for a warmer/drier day than we currently have.

The patching idea I believe is originally yours.  I think you did on your Iveco to get it through MOT.  It's my last resort tbh, just for getting it through MOT.  Since the error light doesn't come on when I park on a hill or incline, it leans more towards a loose connection, or maybe water in the ecu box.  I shall do that second I think.  As water would pool at one end on a hill.


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#4 2021-12-31 13:16:31

tee_cee
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Re: Accessing the instrument cluster / removing the top dash

I think that the light also comes on if the brake fluid is low. Would also explain why its ok on a hill

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#5 2021-12-31 17:30:56

Pathfinder100
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Re: Accessing the instrument cluster / removing the top dash

That's kind of random, but might explain some things.  My brakes are pretty knackered.  they work and they work well, but I suspect the back brake shoes need replacing and the front brake pads are definitely low.  I also don't think the brake fluid has been changed in a long time.  It's a to-do list job.  I have front and back pads ready.  Was planning on doing the front pads tomorrow.  Back will be more of a ball ache due to needing to pop the hub off, but have all the tools for doing it.  I really want to drain the whole brake system and redo it with new fluid and maybe change the brake pipes on the front to a braided/reinforced type (if possible).  I planned to look into it next summer, but might bring it forward.


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