Weird issue when turning right

Pathfinder100 · 2022-02-17 11:00:31

I noticed this issue a month back.

When I go around a roundabout at certain speeds, ie, over 15-20mph, the van will dive on the nearside in a weird disconcerting way and it feels like the van is trying to roll over. Is this an anti roll bar issue? Or is it more likely to be the shocks?

I suspect some of the problem is due to the interior camper weight being mostly on that side of the van, so it is more likely to dive when turning right, as the van leans more.

I am currently wondering whether to scrap the bed in the back and move to a rock and roll bed to try and distribute the weight more evenly. At present I have about 150-200kg of weight just on the right side.

scotchjoe · 2022-02-17 13:17:13

My van has no anti roll bar fitted and drives fine round bends and roundabouts. Have you checked the state of the strut on the nearside?

OAT · 2022-02-17 21:31:54

scotchjoe wrote:

My van has no anti roll bar fitted and drives fine round bends and roundabouts. Have you checked the state of the strut on the nearside

Surprised to hear that Joe.

I have no anti roll bar either and it is very noticable. I have driven many older vans over the years and am quite used to the sometimes wallowing feel. With my expert though, it tends to stay level to a point, but once the forces overcome the suspension, it tilts alarmingly and instantly. I have had this van almost 6 years now and it can still catch me out.

Not too bad when there is power on but if cruisin 40 - 50 and caught out by a tighter than expected bend, it can be terrifying. As an ex motorcyclist my instinct is to lean further, Sometimes to the point of hitting my head against the window or almost laying across the passenger seat. It has never lifted a wheel and I am sure it's only the body rolling, but makes you momentarily feel that you are not going to make the corner. Just turn harder though and around it goes.

Not my driving style either. MPG being far more important than MPH for me. Definately among the worst body roll I have experienced. I wonder if there is something wrong with my suspension?

Zog · 2022-02-17 23:17:48

Pathfinder100 wrote:

I noticed this issue a month back.
When I go around a roundabout at certain speeds, ie, over 15-20mph, the van will dive on the nearside in a weird disconcerting way and it feels like the van is trying to roll over. Is this an anti roll bar issue? Or is it more likely to be the shocks?
I suspect some of the problem is due to the interior camper weight being mostly on that side of the van, so it is more likely to dive when turning right, as the van leans more.
I am currently wondering whether to scrap the bed in the back and move to a rock and roll bed to try and distribute the weight more evenly. At present I have about 150-200kg of weight just on the right side.

Have you got a clonk? I had similar symptoms plus a clonk and it turned out to be wear where the bottom ball joint goes into the steering knuckle.

scotchjoe · 2022-02-17 23:40:55

Maybe down to miles travelled = worn suspension.
My van is a 2006 1.9 with 75k on it. I have been driving old vans for most of my adult life, so may be subconsciously cutting it a bit of slack.

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scotchjoe · 2022-02-18 13:26:32

Was out in the van this morning, paid close attention on the roundabouts and corners. the van is fine turning on level roads, but pitches slightly when turning on a badly cambered road. Would say that's only to be expected.
The wee van is a pleasure to drive. A vehicle with a bit of character is a rarity now.

kenbw2 · 2022-02-19 01:16:18

Zog wrote:

I had similar symptoms plus a clonk and it turned out to be wear where the bottom ball joint goes into the steering knuckle.

I had exactly this a couple of weeks ago. Ball joint replaced, all is good now.

Pathfinder100 · 2022-02-19 02:28:42

Cheers for the ideas. I also considered the tracking might be out on the nearside wheel, so when I am turning so much one side is turning more, causing that instability.

I'm afraid the ball joint could be the issue, it's not been well cared for in the past before I bought it. Going to do the front brakes next week, so will have a look at the ball joint then. Failing that it's in for MOT next week so it might get highlighted then.

I do have a clonk of sorts but not while turning and not on the front of the van. I think that is a different problem and at a guess is the exhaust pipe hanger rubbers being substandard. I have new ones to fit.

kenbw2 · 2022-02-20 20:00:45

Yea my ball joint being worn didn't make any noises, it just felt like I was driving a boat - steering being a suggestion etc

tee_cee · 2022-02-20 21:11:41

Those rubber exhaust hangers are like some kind of chinese puzzle to fit.

Last edited by tee_cee (2022-02-20 21:12:11)

Pathfinder100 · 2022-02-23 16:08:07

Well it went for MOT and it failed. As if it was going to pass. big_smile

Failed on nearside Front Suspension and track rod end. So I guess that explains the diving when cornering. I told the garage to fix it. I have no interest in doing that particular job. Price wasn't bad and it saves me time. It's going back in next week for the back brakes.

Next jobs for me to do include the exhaust hanger doughnut and the LP hose for the power steering. Future jobs include the fked gearbox and I still havent done the gear stick linkage cables yet. Oh and that bloody airbag light which for whatever reason didn't come on when the MOT got done. Still I hope to get my solar upgrade done soon (join two 100w panels together to make 200w) and also looking into rock n roll beds as I worry about all the weight being on one side of the van.

NathanB · 2022-05-16 15:25:06

FYI to all those on here driving a 1.9D without an ARB - you can fit an ARB off a 2L HDI without too much difficulty. You'll need the bar, bushes, clamps, and droplinks. By removing the bolts for the steering rack and moving it forward a little, you can slide the ARB in without needing to undo the subframe bolts.

Can easily be fitted in a weekend and makes a huge difference to the handling. Not even just under fast cornering - it no longer gets buffeted around by lorries or in high winds. If people are interested I could put a bit more info together.

Last edited by NathanB (2022-05-16 15:26:18)

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