Catalytic converter (part) of an exhaust

AlvyLad · 2022-06-26 22:35:23

Well heeellllooooo!
On the way back home, bit of loud sounding engine and whole hell of a scraping noise... pulled over- YES! got the jack up and rubber gromit (?) that's meant to hold mid-rear part missing and it broke on where the "converter output" in to straight to the rear connection snapped.
found some rope (plastic) tied up between the tank and chassis and made it home, before it all melted.

110 moneys...https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324332747472 but looks absolutely different!?
or https://www.eurocarparts.com/catalytic-converter
Klarius Catalytic ConverterProduct Code: 724730025

it's Euro 3 engine, doubt it'll fail MOT emissions, if there wasn't converter... would it? (I'm thinking of those fake Cat-converters - empty)

ANW Dispatch 2004 1.9 D (non turbo) 70 Enterprise, any pointers as for correct part number or fitting intricacies?
Thanks!

JohnDragonMan · 2022-06-26 23:14:23

managed to pull these part numbers from Fiats ePer 9800523980 and 9456199880 they dont seem to bolt to a turbo..

have a look, see what you can come up with..

http://eper.fiatforum.com/eper/navi?COU … INDOW_ID=1

hope it helps!

AlvyLad · 2022-06-26 23:36:05

JohnDragonMan wrote:

managed to pull these part numbers from Fiats ePer 9800523980 and 9456199880 they dont seem to bolt to a turbo..
have a look, see what you can come up with..
http://eper.fiatforum.com/eper/navi?COU … INDOW_ID=1
hope it helps!

Thanks m8, but it looks different !? (all it looked like just a straight'ish pipe between middle box, the "cat" and only little bit bendy towards rear box assembly (with a hook))
...I'll make some pics tomorrow, I'm sure you'll get a smirk at least seeing my handy-work wink
Cheers!

AlvyLad · 2022-06-27 17:01:30

Hi guys, managed to make some photos worth an entry for a worse photographer of the year roll

Kinda in reverse (the shiny new bracket on extension is meant to be to the right (mid-box)

So overall, with connecting piece from the bracket of the "new" Mid-box to the bracket on the rear box (pipe, that's "cat-receiving")bracket is 1.050m or 1050mm

Last edited by AlvyLad (2022-06-27 17:02:54)

AlvyLad · 2022-06-27 17:35:22

found this
AUTOGEM CATALYTIC CONVERTER FITTING KIT
Part No :CESCK28570 £9.86 £5.42Your discount applied 45% OFF
Catalytic Converter Fitting Kit

CITROEN DISPATCH 1.9 D (04/98 - 10/06)
https://www.gsfcarparts.com/parts/body- … ust-system

Brand AUTOGEM
Unique Reference ZA054288
Width [mm] 150
Height [mm] 150
Length [mm] 1070
Weight [kg] 3.5
Exhaust Emission Norm 66
Additional Info with mounting parts

who knows? for the length- seems to be what's needed, for the price- suspect!?

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bit of a digging on EurCP
https://www.eurocarparts.com/exhaust-system
Vehicle Specs
Euro Status:Euro 3Date From:09/2001Date To:01/2006Engine Code:DW8B
Option 2

Cat Part Number 28613D

FTR27 Exhaust RubberProduct Code: 712730216 or FTR27 Klarius Exhaust RubberProduct Code: 712730211

SLV4 Klarius Connecting PipeProduct Code: 712111350 or SLV4 Connecting PipeProduct Code: 712111356

x2 off SYA23 Klarius U ClampProduct Code: 712772100 or SYA23 U ClampProduct Code: 712772106

JohnDragonMan · 2022-06-27 23:10:46

this is some pretty good info, we should make a thread called "exhausts - all you need to know"

it will be handy as i know our vans has some different kinds with the wheel chair adapted type vans and their rather nice side exit exhausts (that must save some weight!)

it would be great if we could put all info on exhaust related items in one easy to find place, then just keep adding to it as new things are found!

just an idea?

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AlvyLad · 2022-06-28 15:45:59

Not exactly worthy sticky, as OE numbers are still different - mess!
ebay, kept saying I needed different exhaust configuration (the same as EuroCarParts (Type A)), by pictures I've established OE number 1705 NT to be identical to mine and then.... yes- plenty of correct Cats, but the rest is still somehow muddled up... as not all 1705NT are having the same designated part number 311691
Anyhow, ordered all bits and bobs, hopefully will get them tomorrow
(BTW 1705 NV is available on ebay too, but it's meant for the long wheel base model and... it says as about to fit my model too cry )

AlvyLad · 2022-07-06 17:12:31

AlvyLad wrote:

Option 2
Vehicle Specs
Euro Status:Euro 3
Date From:09/2001 Date To:01/2006
Engine Code:DW8B
https://i.imgur.com/B78fO7j.png
Cat Part Number 28613D
FTR27 Exhaust Rubber Product Code: 712730216 or FTR27 Klarius Exhaust Rubber Product Code: 712730211
SLV4 Klarius Connecting Pipe Product Code: 712111350 or SLV4 Connecting Pipe Product Code: 712111356
x2 off SYA23 Klarius U ClampProduct Code: 712772100 or SYA23 U ClampProduct Code: 712772106

rear box (silencer) is CN461M Klarius Rear SilencerProduct Code: 705545831 1730L7
CN553D Klarius Front SilencerProduct Code: 703735031 1705NS

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The other option is, if you have catalytic converter at the front (most common configuration)

Vehicle Specs
Date From:05/2000
04/1998-12/2006

1705JN Front Catalytic converter, most will list with fitting kit Fitting Kit - FI6005T_KIT209 or 401557

1717K8 middle silencer box

1726HS Rear Exhaust Box End Silencer

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ANW, anyone that was interested in my "ventures":
Cat arrived first, but mounts took forever to be delivered, hence I ended looking for a garage (ramp really) on Friday and ended up with getting done, by some rip-off artist monkey wrench... with me assisting took 45mins, cost- £60 to replace middle catalytic converter neutral whilst my regular garage mechanic had a laugh earlier about it, as I had a chat with, but he's too busy to do the job, but if I could've waited he said that was £40 worth of work at most.

GRIFFIN · 2022-08-08 23:34:18

I had a similar problem with my despatch but before I ordered the parts I had a quick look under my old disabled access scudo which I keep for parts. I was so glad I did because it had a full one piece stainless system fitted with a side exit rear pipe. All I had to do was to take the additional hanging brackets off the chassis, cobble together a long hanger made from a couple of rubbers and mount them on my despatch.
It was a bit of a pain but I jacked it up, put wooden blocks under the back and ramps under the front and did it myself one Sunday. Being in one piece, it would have been easier with a four poster lift but I managed it single handed with almost no swearing at all.

So the moral of the story is, if you see one of these vans in a scrap yard with a rear disabled access ramp, it is highly likely to have a custom made stainless system. Buy it along with the little hanging brackets which just unscrew from the chassis and keep it until your rusty old exhaust falls off. They would surely cost £500 to have one specially made and being stainless, will outlive your van and possibly you as well.

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tee_cee · 2022-08-09 13:15:21

GRIFFIN wrote:

I had a similar problem with my despatch but before I ordered the parts I had a quick look under my old disabled access scudo which I keep for parts. I was so glad I did because it had a full one piece stainless system fitted with a side exit rear pipe. All I had to do was to take the additional hanging brackets off the chassis, cobble together a long hanger made from a couple of rubbers and mount them on my despatch.
It was a bit of a pain but I jacked it up, put wooden blocks under the back and ramps under the front and did it myself one Sunday. Being in one piece, it would have been easier with a four poster lift but I managed it single handed with almost no swearing at all.
So the moral of the story is, if you see one of these vans in a scrap yard with a rear disabled access ramp, it is highly likely to have a custom made stainless system. Buy it along with the little hanging brackets which just unscrew from the chassis and keep it until your rusty old exhaust falls off. They would surely cost £500 to have one specially made and being stainless, will outlive your van and possibly you as well.

Paid £300 4 years ago, so £500 is probably about right wink

AlvyLad · 2022-08-16 13:16:06

GRIFFIN wrote:

They would surely cost £500 to have one specially made and being stainless, will outlive your van and possibly you as well.

with all the viruses etc- you might be spot on, there's a chance exhaust and van might outlive me
Just a bit of an observation about what exhaust parts (when getting)... somehow, if to go with original exhaust- it'll cost arm and a leg, if you can find it, but those last for years and years, however, any "aftermarket" ones will last 3 maybe up to 5 years at absolute best and looking at my front box- just hope to not to have it leaking and get MOT, but would make sense to replace even before that date + to get one of the known "better" makes, so they wouldn't rust away like crazy

OAT · 2022-08-16 21:35:30

AlvyLad wrote:

there's a chance exhaust and van might outlive me

I think that when I do an oil change!

smile

JohnDragonMan · 2022-08-20 01:45:06

OAT wrote:

AlvyLad wrote:
there's a chance exhaust and van might outlive me
I think that when I do an oil change!

because the van never really looses that oil because it just disappears into the sills and subframe?

thats what you do with the old Fiat Panda... its why mine has lasted so long! cant rust when its full of oil!

vaz2121 · 2022-08-20 13:13:57

My back box on Van fell off a few years ago just before MOT time on a trip I seam to remember getting a cat back system for it from B&M exhausts who do a load of cats also.............
The only other thing I also seem to remember is the sleave didnt fit and was returned, I don't know if someone had been there before us ...........
We made our own conecting sleave in the end.........................

I now seem to remember thinking thats a small diameter pipe......................

AlvyLad · 2022-08-25 18:51:00

vaz2121 wrote:

My back box on Van fell off a few years ago just before MOT time on a trip I seam to remember getting a cat back system for it from B&M exhausts who do a load of cats also.............
The only other thing I also seem to remember is the sleave didnt fit and was returned, I don't know if someone had been there before us ...........
We made our own conecting sleave in the end.........................

I now seem to remember thinking thats a small diameter pipe......................

Daz rite! the thinner diameter one goes to catalytic converter to the front box connection. The bigger diameter goes to connect rear box with cat.... which hardly makes any sense, as pressure should be equal all the way (diameter), if anything after the cat it should become smaller to maintain equal pressure under the build up.. but hey- what do I know?

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