MK2 Engines, transmission, inter-changeability

AlvyLad · 2024-02-11 20:26:39

Hi guys, proud owner of mine "on the last legs" MK1 (face lift, ABS "Enterprise 75" - luxury model even though registered 2004)

Will be going near mechanics next week, but slightly concerned to be asking such question...

Looked at upgrade's in a sense of MK2 due to the way better cargo area L1, and massively bigger L2. Seen x3 off them, way younger etc, but most were complete money pit to get in to "workhorse" shape and as it comes to faults got explained, that they aren't nowhere near as reliable as MK1.

In short barely any 1.6 engines last 100k, repairs are unreasonably expensive (90HP would be suitable for me, considering current being about 5HP engine from new 86HP), crucially non turbo and very much better lasting.
The 2.0 HDI engines- "some and some", but cambelt change is £350+; Clutch £550+ and they are known for additional issues of gear boxes failing and injectors seizing that could end alone £700 note job, if possible, without damaging engine at all

So, clever me thinks, knowing what Fiat, Citroen, Peugeot done in the past using identical main components and slapping them on different models-bodies... is it possible to replace IE ex-1.6 engined and gear boxed van with IE Peugeot's 406 2.0D engine and gear-box? (Maths go like £600+ £500+ labour of £700) to end up with a young'ish, reliable van to last me for years to come

Or... I'd get the lot to learn nothing fits or electrics incompatible etc etc ?

kenbw2 · 2024-02-11 23:27:39

Isn't the 2.0 from a 406 the same as a 2.0 from a Mk2 Dispatch? Both HDIs etc

Unless you mean the 1.9?

AlvyLad · 2024-02-12 02:13:49

kenbw2 wrote:

Isn't the 2.0 from a 406 the same as a 2.0 from a Mk2 Dispatch? Both HDIs etc
Unless you mean the 1.9?

Ah... Well then
If to fit 2.0 D HDI engine and gear box, instead of 1.6, are there many differences (any)?

That Peugeot before being written off, did just over 100k and is in such condition, that looks like vicar owned it ...

Whilst 1.6 vans are plentiful with already dead engines, that aren't worth repairing to start with.

1.9 comes with different (more reliable, but) x5 gear boxes fitment unfortunately AFAIK (automatic variants apart)

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AlvyLad · 2024-02-12 20:45:28

TBH, I could easily put up with 1.6 petrol engine (and whatever like transmission, electrics- whole engine bay) changeover, as I had a quick chat to the breakers- absolute no-no, that 2.0 d Peugeot is completely different, as it's 2006 reg to the vans I consider to fit in (2008- onwards)

AlvyLad · 2024-02-14 20:37:43

had a good chat to a good mechanic...
my "idea" is stupid, as these days (from Mk1 onwards) all of the other electrics (electronics) as ECU etc is interconnected with so much onwards to ignition barrels and so on, that doesn't make sense to get involved in
Repairs?- as anoying MK1 is, it's absolutely different world to MK2 and onwards, most things like clutch (parts cost apart) is doubling up...

As much as I hate her, I'll be apologising to her ... and keep on repairing, "make do" with space available etc it seems...

Last edited by AlvyLad (2024-02-14 20:38:05)

kenbw2 · 2024-02-14 23:39:06

Yea if your concern is complexity, it doesn't get any better the newer you go. You just have to hope it's new enough to not have any problems. But good luck with that if you don't want to spend £tens_of_thousands

Maybe these old vans are money pits at their age, but it ain't cheap to upgrade either

AlvyLad · 2024-02-15 18:15:58

kenbw2 wrote:

Yea if your concern is complexity, it doesn't get any better the newer you go. You just have to hope it's new enough to not have any problems. But good luck with that if you don't want to spend £tens_of_thousands
Maybe these old vans are money pits at their age, but it ain't cheap to upgrade either

It's been something like 7 years ago I got her for a something like £700... I know inflation and things, investing double that doesn't get anything reasonable these days.. Money pits.

Last edited by AlvyLad (2024-02-15 18:16:34)

kenbw2 · 2024-02-15 19:08:39

If the bar was "don't spend more than you bought it for" mine would never have got its first MOT tongue

The way I see it, the bar is "how much is it to buy a replacement van with zero problems". It's significantly more

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