That damn back door

RegW · 2025-06-29 12:10:30

I'm plague by a almost constant creaking/rattling from the back door
on every movement of the van not just bumps and pot holes where one would
expect all the crap in the back to jump about
I think its the left hand one
I have adjusted the slam plates a few times now but still haven't got it quiet yet
any tips and tricks?

Last edited by RegW (2025-06-29 12:13:45)

kenbw2 · 2025-06-29 14:11:45

My rear doors sometimes pop off the catch at the bottom if I have the van on uneven ground. They don't open, but only because the doors hold onto each other

I put some washers under the catch to raise it up, which reduces it

I don't get any noises though. Do you know what the noises are?

RegW · 2025-06-29 14:32:31

Yep, mine popped open once and I padded the top plate so the spring loaded 'tongue' thing
went deeper into the plate
The noise.
It often starts as I pull away on the uneven lane out to the main road and continues more with the vans movement rather
than when I hit say a bump or pot hole
It's kind of a creaking/rattly sort of noise
I've crawled underneath to see if it was a loose shock or suspension component but couldn't find anything to suggest this
then when I did a LHS rear door catch adjustmenit it went away for a while which makes me suspect the door
is moving.
It's maddening, if I hit a bump and the tools and assorted crap in the back rattles, that's fine I know what that is
and it doesn't bother me, but not knowing what's making the noise bugs me.
I've just tried another adjustment method and about to go around the block to see if it makes any difference
and will update this in a bit and take some pics.

I may even try to record it if I can

Last edited by RegW (2025-06-29 14:33:49)

kenbw2 · 2025-06-29 15:01:02

Is the door tightly closed or does it slightly move about its hinge even when latched? You can move the catch in and out, maybe pull it back so that it holds the door tightly closed?

RegW · 2025-06-29 16:15:06

Just got back from a quick test and its actually better now so having one of me thinks................

The handle to open the LH door was tighter than normal and think in my efforts to 'improve' it
I may have over tightned the door catches and thereby stressed it too much which obviously didnt help.

This time, I used a dry marker on the catch plates to see where the tongue thing was making contact
to check they were not hitting or sticking on the sides, they looked OK.
Bearing in mind the tightness of the lever previously, I carefully pushed the door shut until I heard
the top tongue loctate and the seal at the top looked good.
The catch plate looked to be where should be.

The bottom catch was still unengaged and the door looked to be in a good position seal wise
so I backed off the 2 catch plate bolts and gently levered the catch plate back until I
heard the tongue engage then nipped them up.

The creaking noise has gone! and the door release lever feels normal again so hopefully that's sorted.
I know these van are not built for comfort and have typical hard suspension in order to carry heavy loads
so they'll never be whisper quiet like luxury saloons but the quieter we can get them makes them more pleasant to drive.

kenbw2 · 2025-06-30 13:59:56

RegW wrote:

I know these van are not built for comfort and have typical hard suspension in order to carry heavy loads
so they'll never be whisper quiet like luxury saloons but the quieter we can get them makes them more pleasant to drive.

A few years ago I managed to harvest a number of parts from a Synergie and it's surprising how many comforts were added to the car version

I managed to swap the rear springs which stops that "dumpf" every time it goes over a bump. And apparently the doors had two sets of rubber seals, and it really does make a big difference to the wind noise

RegW · 2025-06-30 15:06:05

I have often mused over finding/fitting some softer rear springs as it does feel a bit harsh at times.
If I could get a part number or what would be compatible and they weren't too expensive, I'd be sorely tempted as I bet they
make for a nicer ride and lessen the impact that can make the doors rattle

Just did quick Ebay check out of curiosity
£65 a pair? jeez, I'm tempted
What do you reckon to these Ken?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/296567756018?

Last edited by RegW (2025-06-30 15:14:09)

kenbw2 · 2025-06-30 15:48:13

RegW wrote:

£65 a pair? jeez, I'm tempted
What do you reckon to these Ken?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/296567756018?

They looks like springs to me haha.

I didn't get the part number unfortunately because I just swapped them from a vehicle that was going to scrap. I've often wondered if ever I needed to replace them, would aftermarket springs match the softness if I ask for Synergie springs

Might be worth a punt though

RegW · 2025-06-30 16:20:29

Yep, that's the snag, you cant tell by looking what a springs' spring and load rate is.
One would hope the Synergie spring rate would be lower, ie start to deflect at a lower weight than a Dispatch one
but the load rate somewhere close

Last edited by RegW (2025-06-30 16:28:22)

Pathfinder100 · 2025-07-04 19:03:42

kenbw2 wrote:

My rear doors sometimes pop off the catch at the bottom if I have the van on uneven ground. They don't open, but only because the doors hold onto each other.

Glad to see I'm not the only person with that issue. Mine can't go far because I have a deadlock between the two doors that stops them opening, but it does rattle like crazy when it happens.

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