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Casper

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From: East Lothian

Registered: 2015-12-20

Posts: 2,180

Gear Select

I have never had a dash mount gear stick before and this cable stuff is new to me. I say new as i had it in my car for the past two years but not long found this out. Anyway....... My car is six speed to six is where reverse is on the van. I make the mistake now and then in putting the van in reverse but i am sure this should not happen. Should there not be something to prevent this when the van is going forward at speed? I also have play when in gear, not a big wobble but a wobble and gears are quite stiff. I am hopping the stiffness is just a lube as the clutch and accelerator are quite stiff also. Is the gear shift just an adjustment needed in the cable or something more sinister?

vaz2121

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From: Glasgow Living:~ SW. Scotland

Registered: 2015-08-31

Posts: 1,311

Re: Gear Select

Accelerator cable on our van (DW8) is same as on our Pug 306 (DW8)...which became very very stiff to operate, ordered a new cable but while I was waiting decided to remove from pump and lube it, also removed the damper type thing fitted to pump, It made a big difference but was still stiff. When new cable finally arrived, it's a flat pack of bits affair to fit whatever model on list..... It was the younger mechanic at the garage pointed out routing of cable was wrong and curve was to tight (reassembled as I found It) now it's as It should be....still got new cable

As for my mates van, I think after clutch was fitted the linkage cables may have got twisted as it passes through floor  (like crossing your fingers) plus drying out with age  when it failed.... who knows....

Gear and clutch cable, If they can be lubed.. it can't hurt. The ball joints on ends of gear linkage that pop into ends of cables do dry out and can wear badly and will pop off if not lubed occasionally.....

I think clutches on Diesel are usually just heavier feeling  than on a petrol.... maybe I'm just old school... I must say the 306 is the heaviest feel of the lot, does have 100,000mls+ more under its belt though

As for reverse lock... I have no idea, Never had a six speed car (Liar that I am, mate left me his Fabia VRS used it for 2 weeks, it was only on way home from airport pick up he told me it's a 6 speed box)   will need to try our van, I'll let you know...... Funny thing mates Peugeot expert has a collar to lift for reverse where as mates Scudo N our Dispatch don't ?

Casper

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From: East Lothian

Registered: 2015-12-20

Posts: 2,180

Re: Gear Select

New cable is on the cards as my is starting to fray at the pump end. I did put 3 into 1 down it last month what helped but could be better. Must admit. I have owned and used through work cars many a 306 diesel and never found the clutch that heavy. My last 306 non turbo had 120k and even that was fine. Ill check out the 306 cables as well as they may be cheaper. Thought i had seen it before. Euro car parts off i pop for a shopping spree    so the clutch is definitely cable not hydraulic (Not looked at it properly yet) as i may as well change that while i am under at the pedals. Funny, i have the expert but no lift collar.

BTW the pug 306 turbo diesel is one of the most underrated cars ever in my opinion. Once you pulled the throttle cable tight and unscrewed the plastic stop from under the accelerator pedal it went like sh**e of a shovel. The works 1.9TD never got run in and we would see 120 on the clock. Never had that from any of the ones i have owned. Presumably they were run in properly from new. I have heard the same thing from ford owners.

vaz2121

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From: Glasgow Living:~ SW. Scotland

Registered: 2015-08-31

Posts: 1,311

Re: Gear Select

Sorry I apologize ... I just took it as the 306 has a cable clutch (starting doubting myself there as well now) that the van would as well. Hydraulic on mine !!
made a point this morning to see if van had a gate lock for reverse which it DOESN'T.....Thought I'd look see what/how adjustment was available on clutch cable and low and behold ..... a slave cylinder
To try N save face Ive had an Ovtavia and a mk4 golf both had exactly same gear box IE part NO. gear box codes, both we given a clutch, again same part NO. YET one was hydraulic and other was cable clutch! !

Had a 307 before we got this 306 for my partner it was dreadful.... really looked the part 18" rims darkened glass was a 3 door 110 HDI rapier.. she really liked it but what a bag of s***............1st off, she complained that it used more fuel than old 1.8I vectra and no go..... turned out variable vanes in turbo were stuck, 2nd, she also said the clutch slipped every now and then.... neither I nor a test drive at garage could get it to slip.... The final straw was it would only start when it felt like it.... hot or cold if It didn't catch in first couple turns over you'd flatten battery trying...Six weeks and a none to shabby bill later for what turned out was needed, a new injector as old one wouldn't hold pressure when starting..... I'd had enough, When a local (chancer ?) car dealer, Had seen (nosy about) it in garage and made an offer and drove off in to the sunset wringing his hands having robbed us. Almost 5 months we had it, I and our pocket were glad to see the back of it.... Last I heard and saw it was back at garage the Duel mass fly wheel had for a better description exploded and if there was a light on the dash it was lit up including some sort of pollution warning and all this at just under 70,000mls and yet I hear high praise for the HDI but everyone that's said to me has had a HDI 90

306 IMHO far superior car.... bought it off a friends cousin?.... been in their family since new and had been handed down (around).... It had about 2 weeks MOT left, My mechanic friend gave it the once over (had failed MOT, abs light on + two bald tyres on purchase ) we struck a deal, We were still stinging and skint after the 307 but my partner is/was an Aux Nurse, was working in the community as well as the hospital at the time (needed wheels but skint)
So drive shaft from breakers ( for ABS ring) 2 tyres, a cam belt kit, power steering pump (breakers).... great car we've averaged about 18,000 for last 4/5 years with nothing more really than a service every 8/10,000mls......and IIRC 196,000mls now and still sweet as a nut (spent less on repairs in 5 yrs than 5 months on 307)... It's on semi retirement now simply because of my partners condition... I would Check oil N Water and think nothing of driving to Galicia with it (as per Avatar about 7 times over Millau viaduct, last time may 2015 @ 190,000 ish)

IMHO, I think the XUD engine might be a little more robust than the DW8....but like every engine they have there traits
Had  405GRDT, 2X 106D 's and my fav a 205 STDT as company/pool cars and they got worked, amongst others... whats happened: I just don't see anything with the 1.6HDI even ex taxi's with much more than 150,000 on them.....

Sorry going off at a tangent....... It's a HYDRAULIC Clutch ! ! !