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tee_cee

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Registered: 2016-03-18

Posts: 574

Rear brake self adjusters

Have replaced the brake shoes and let the adjusters back out enough to get the drums back on.
However the handbrake needs to be pulled all the wayy up to hold. So this means that theres not enough clearance to turn the drivers seat.
Reading about self adjusters, it can either be by handbrake use, or braking in reverse. Does anyone knowwhich it is?

kenbw2

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From: Preston

Registered: 2017-11-26

Posts: 1,271

Re: Rear brake self adjusters

Obviously not a great solution, but do you know some Dispatch/Expert/Scudos/Synergies/806s/Ulysees have a handbrake that you can fold down without disengaging?

The button on the end pulls out letting you drop it down.

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OAT

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From: Borders/Dales

Registered: 2017-01-03

Posts: 903

Re: Rear brake self adjusters

Sorry tc I can't help with the self adjusters.  Got to the point where I now have to pay someone to do mine for me.

Mine is a bit of a problem with the swivel seat but it only catches on the swivel release lever.  It can be "persuaded" to let it pass and has now cut a groove in the plastic cover of the brake lever, which helps.

Obviously not a great solution, but do you know some Dispatch/Expert/Scudos/Synergies/806s/Ulysees have a handbrake that you can fold down without disengaging?

The button on the end pulls out letting you drop it down.

Interesting!

My handbrake had behaved normally for 18 months when it suddenly started dropping down like you describe.  But it did it without needing to touch the button.

Turned out to be an indication of total failure though as a week later it stopped engaging at all.

Must try pulling the button on the replacement one I fitted.  Would be handy if it dropped flat.

tee_cee

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Registered: 2016-03-18

Posts: 574

Re: Rear brake self adjusters

Unfortunately my handbrake does not drop. Anyway the self adjusters don't appear to be working. So looks like I'll have to take the drums off and manually adjust them back again. Think I'm getting to the point where I can't be bothered with the hastle too.

eddie78

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Registered: 2018-07-18

Posts: 14

Re: Rear brake self adjusters

In all my years of working on cars/vans I am yet to see self adjusters that work, japanese cars with drums on the rears have self adjusters (legal requirement) but they put a hole in the back plate so you can manually notch them up

steve the grease

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Registered: 2018-05-20

Posts: 82

Re: Rear brake self adjusters

These screw type self adjusters are not great engineering. They will not take up if there is a lot of adjustment needed. If you are dexterous , you can adjust the little wheel through one of the wheelnut holes. You need a small screwdriver and a small torch ( pen torch) to see down the wheelnut hole.  From memory the  nut needs to move down to tighten it, after a while it will start to come back into range.  It's better to do this than drop the drums off as there is usually a ridge caused by the shoes wearing the drum, which stops you getting the drum off easily. All in all it's a pain to do.

Last edited by steve the grease (2018-07-25 20:28:57)

tee_cee

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Registered: 2016-03-18

Posts: 574

Re: Rear brake self adjusters

These screw type self adjusters are not great engineering. They will not take up if there is a lot of adjustment needed. If you are dexterous , you can adjust the little wheel through one of the wheelnut holes. You need a small screwdriver and a small torch ( pen torch) to see down the wheelnut hole.  From memory the  nut needs to move down to tighten it, after a while it will start to come back into range.  It's better to do this than drop the drums off as there is usually a ridge caused by the shoes wearing the drum, which stops you getting the drum off easily. All in all it's a pain to do.

Took the drums off and turned the wheels until the drums would not go back on. I think the adjuster was working on one side, even though the other side looked exactly the same. Handbrake now back to normal - but interesting that such a small adjustment can stop my seat swiveling.