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#1 2019-08-27 14:31:25

Zippypilot
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From: Sussex
Registered: 2019-06-25
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MOT - FAILED! Just a note to shop around!

Hi all,

Well the poor little old van failed its MOT this morning. Under the "Do not drive until repaired (dangerous defects) section was the front right tyre badly worn, now although I knew about the tyres and ordered them last week for Sat just gone, they didn't turn up, so had to take the van to the bloody MOT knowing it would fail and search around for some tyre place to fit 2 new ones to the front (but being the damn bank holiday I had to wait after the mot to get this done, I got quoted over £130 each at some garages finally found budget ones, new (as I do little miles and don't carry heavy loads) at £67 each, fitted smile

One tyre nearside rear (I didn't notice this when buying the van) was failed for directional (ie fitted around the wrong way lol Grrrr) now swapped with the spare.

The "dim/hard to read odometer never showed on the defects, so thats cool.

Biggest and most expensive (as it would seem, is nearside rear sill excessively corroded) basically hidden by the underseal type coating. Which is fair enough, glad the MOT place is thorough as I failed to notice it. Quotes ranged between £200 and £264 for the cutting out of the rust, new patch welded in and basic smoothing off with no finish paint. Now, it extends about 4 inches from the rear wheel arch to about 12 inches forward, this is just the outer sill, inner is fine. I was getting a bit worried with the money as you do, but a friend came good, I called him as we have spoken about van maintenance being expensive, and gave me a number of an independant engineer whos specialises in vans. Sure enough, quote for the exact same work..... £60 to £80 depending on extent. Lovely smile

Oh the good news is all the bushes replaced have passed with flying colours, one advisory..steering a bit notchy, still havn't solved it. So all in all not a bad result with a bit of shopping around

(Sorry if you read all this, was a bit long!)

Zippypilot

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#2 2019-08-27 19:02:37

vaz2121
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From: SW. Scotland
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Re: MOT - FAILED! Just a note to shop around!

Sounds like your suffering some of the issues Ive come across ............
Odomiter : Try a replacement bulb or ignore........ (The binnicle quality is somewhat poor on these)
Tyres : Ive been using the equivilent MPV rated tyres as my Vans been fitted with 15" Alloys over the original 14's
Sills: I suffered blistering on mine which I originally thought was down to standing about a lot doing very little and as you pointed out was under the sealent near the rearmost part...........
When showen what was happening I opted to fit New sills..........
To be informed it appeared to be coming from the inside out........
(Check for water ingress and getting down into sill)

As for notchy steering that coul be as simple as a new belt or fluid change.......... but also sounds a bit like a weak pump (Good used out breakers would do)

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#3 2019-08-27 20:52:17

steve the grease
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Re: MOT - FAILED! Just a note to shop around!

For the notchy steering try lubing the UJ in the steering column just above the rack......

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#4 2019-08-29 00:46:34

Zippypilot
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Re: MOT - FAILED! Just a note to shop around!

vaz2121 wrote:

Sounds like your suffering some of the issues Ive come across ............
Odomiter : Try a replacement bulb or ignore........ (The binnicle quality is somewhat poor on these)
Tyres : Ive been using the equivilent MPV rated tyres as my Vans been fitted with 15" Alloys over the original 14's
Sills: I suffered blistering on mine which I originally thought was down to standing about a lot doing very little and as you pointed out was under the sealent near the rearmost part...........
When showen what was happening I opted to fit New sills..........
To be informed it appeared to be coming from the inside out........
(Check for water ingress and getting down into sill)

As for notchy steering that coul be as simple as a new belt or fluid change.......... but also sounds a bit like a weak pump (Good used out breakers would do)

Yep, sound very similar, gus=ess these vans are not perfect but love mine. welding done for £60 just needs grinding off and finish paint. Re-MOT'd today and all passed smile

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#5 2019-08-29 00:49:27

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Re: MOT - FAILED! Just a note to shop around!

steve the grease wrote:

For the notchy steering try lubing the UJ in the steering column just above the rack......


I re-bled the system and it passed the mot advisory so that good news, you maybe right, the mechanic said the exact same thing today after the weld repair, so I will give it back to him when he is back from from holiday.

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#6 2019-08-29 00:52:59

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Re: MOT - FAILED! Just a note to shop around!

Well new tyres, welding done and advisories sorted, less than £300 so another year of happy motoring!

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#7 2019-08-29 09:09:42

Tiree
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Re: MOT - FAILED! Just a note to shop around!

And ... breathe .. !

big_smile

Always a weight off when you get through the MOT!


2006 Citroen Dispatch 2.0HDi bought in July 2013 - Partial camper conversion ........

mini_citroen-dispatch2.jpeg

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#8 2019-08-29 15:26:06

kenbw2
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Re: MOT - FAILED! Just a note to shop around!

Insurance and MOT renewal are my most stressful times of year


2000 Citroen Dispatch 1.9TD XUD9 Camper Conversion + full time home
1999 Citroen Dispatch 1.9D DW8 Disassembled Camper Conversion
1996 Peugeot 806 1.9TD XUD9 Spare vehicle
1998 Citroen Synergie 1.9TD XUD9 Snapped timing belt

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#9 2019-08-30 16:56:21

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Re: MOT - FAILED! Just a note to shop around!

Tiree wrote:

And ... breathe .. !

big_smile

Always a weight off when you get through the MOT!

It is smile I did manage to have a good look round underneath when on the ramp at the MOT centre, rear left bumper frame is a bit rusty (will sort that easy) and the rest is fantastic, £750 van and under £300 to get through the mot, cheap as, very happy

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#10 2019-08-30 16:59:23

Zippypilot
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From: Sussex
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Re: MOT - FAILED! Just a note to shop around!

kenbw2 wrote:

Insurance and MOT renewal are my most stressful times of year

Oh mate! I know! Mine are a six moths apart, so a few hundred for the mot (looks good for the next now having a good look round when it was on the ramp at the MOT centre, then its a few hundred quid for tax and insurance in another 6 months, THANK GOD they are that far apart!

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#11 2019-08-30 17:07:18

Zippypilot
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From: Sussex
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Re: MOT - FAILED! Just a note to shop around!

vaz2121 wrote:

Sounds like your suffering some of the issues Ive come across ............
Odomiter : Try a replacement bulb or ignore........ (The binnicle quality is somewhat poor on these)
Tyres : Ive been using the equivilent MPV rated tyres as my Vans been fitted with 15" Alloys over the original 14's
Sills: I suffered blistering on mine which I originally thought was down to standing about a lot doing very little and as you pointed out was under the sealent near the rearmost part...........
When showen what was happening I opted to fit New sills..........
To be informed it appeared to be coming from the inside out........
(Check for water ingress and getting down into sill)

As for notchy steering that coul be as simple as a new belt or fluid change.......... but also sounds a bit like a weak pump (Good used out breakers would do)


Hi vaz, you are making me think about getting the sills replace from what you have said. Do you have a cost of the work? This van is so rust free mostly that if it's just a couple of hundred each to keep it on the road for the next few years, I am happy to get this done

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#12 2019-08-30 22:48:03

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From: SW. Scotland
Registered: 2015-08-31
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Re: MOT - FAILED! Just a note to shop around!

I only fitted new sills too mine as I was quoted £200 supplied and fitted with a squirt of body schutz to cover them.............
As I didn't know how much chasing was needing to be done for good metal etc ............
If youv'e had them patched I'd say youv'e no rush and see how solid nearer next MOT .............
I lived in E. Sussex for nigh on 15 years before returning back up here and my usual service bill about 10.. 12 yrs ago would have been close to half as much again .......
So I'd be inclined to get half decent pattern parts {most are Pattern} and see if your man that did your welding is interested in fitting them for you............

These vans are usually fairly rot free for their ages although seen a few with the blistering sills and nearly always older than mine hence the standing about theory.....
I was surprised at the sills but wonder if drainage holes were blocked or non existant as it was mentioned  they didn't recall seeing any

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#13 2019-09-13 19:11:11

Zippypilot
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From: Sussex
Registered: 2019-06-25
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Re: MOT - FAILED! Just a note to shop around!

vaz2121 wrote:

I only fitted new sills too mine as I was quoted £200 supplied and fitted with a squirt of body schutz to cover them.............
As I didn't know how much chasing was needing to be done for good metal etc ............
If youv'e had them patched I'd say youv'e no rush and see how solid nearer next MOT .............
I lived in E. Sussex for nigh on 15 years before returning back up here and my usual service bill about 10.. 12 yrs ago would have been close to half as much again .......
So I'd be inclined to get half decent pattern parts {most are Pattern} and see if your man that did your welding is interested in fitting them for you............

These vans are usually fairly rot free for their ages although seen a few with the blistering sills and nearly always older than mine hence the standing about theory.....
I was surprised at the sills but wonder if drainage holes were blocked or non existant as it was mentioned  they didn't recall seeing any

Thanks for the reply Vaz, thinking about just getting the patched sill replaced, a previous owner put a big crease along it anyway, so looks a bit shabby. £200 sounds very good!

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