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#1 2020-01-09 10:38:53

scotchjoe
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Newbie

Greetings earthlings.Recently bought a 2006 1.9d Expert.It's an ex wheelchair van(WAV)It will mostly be used during the summer months as a tow vehicle for a caravan and as a day and overnight van if needed.Bought to give us the ability to take a wee motorbike with us on our travels for sunny days when away.Old age catching up,no more soakings required.Been lurking on the forum for a wee while,seems like a friendly helpful place,hard to find that on the internet nowadays.The van needs a fair bit of work,I have made a wee start,but plenty to do.

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#2 2020-01-09 14:10:22

vaz2121
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Re: Newbie

Greetings..... I brought our 125 home in the back of a Scudo van with double passenger seat no problem......
A WAV with rear ramp and single seats to put bike front wheel between seems ideal......

The 1.9 non turbo is about as user friendly simple diesel van you'll get these days but I suspect with all aboard and bike with caravan it's bound to show its real slug tendencies ..............

Still so long as you get there better to be the tortoise than the never arriving hare..............

Enjoy


{If truth be told I once brought home a 900F2 Honda in the back of a Suzuki Carry.......... well most of it was in the back}

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#3 2020-01-09 15:07:23

Casper
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Re: Newbie

Welcome Lurker.

Thundercat fits big_smile

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vaz2121 wrote:

{If truth be told I once brought home a 900F2 Honda in the back of a Suzuki Carry.......... well most of it was in the back}

GS850 in the back of an Austin Metro. OK we took the wheels off and drove with tailgate open. I was more amazed it engine could pull the weight.

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#4 2020-01-09 15:33:14

scotchjoe
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mini_imola.jpgmini_imola.jpgThanks for the reply.The caravan only goes to a site in Killybegs about 70 miles away from home.There is only one serious climb,a slow drag through the gap heading towards Donegal town.We will see if it is doable with a bit of experimenting beforehand.The caravan is a relative lightweight at just under 1000kg.
The wee bike is only 160kg,a Moto Guzzi V35 Imola (also needing work).Having trouble getting a V5C for it,and don't want to rip into yet in case I have to take it for inspection.The joys of buying vehicles without a log book roll
The ramp on the van is no more,due to the fitting of the the tow bar and welding up the rear end.i will still have the ramp area to use for storage inside the van,and a dry spare wheel area.At least I now have a van without the back end cut out of it.
The simplicity of the 1.9D was a main factor for buying along with the windows all round and 70k mileage.
Scouring gumtree has got us a big roof box,roof rack and a drive away awning,so trips here and there with the bike can be looked forward too.

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#5 2020-01-09 15:44:44

scotchjoe
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Re: Newbie

Casper wrote:

Welcome Lurker.

Thundercat fits big_smile

https://i.postimg.cc/bJmKdc9J/01.jpg


vaz2121 wrote:

{If truth be told I once brought home a 900F2 Honda in the back of a Suzuki Carry.......... well most of it was in the back}

GS850 in the back of an Austin Metro. OK we took the wheels off and drove with tailgate open. I was more amazed it engine could pull the weight.

Had a GS550 KATANA in the back of an old post office escort van with the front wheel and forks removed many moons ago.Managed to get the rear doors closed with much pushing and grunting.

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#6 2020-01-09 15:44:56

Casper
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Re: Newbie

Awning and roofbox you say. This was my last van

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The van i have now is for work. I had around 900kg in the back and it was still pulling OK. Most of that was a pile of slabs so was taking it easy on bends but i think the hills will be snails pace but then again, You are away on a jolly so whats the hurry. I was down the Black Forrest Germany with mine and i ended up pulling over to let an oil tanker and a line of cars pars. Think if i dropped another gear it would have blown up big_smile

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#7 2020-01-09 15:53:54

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Aye casper,very good.I have read your tin tent escapades.
Scored a 3m x 3m drive away awning for £60 on gumtree.It's no lightweight but will only be used when touring without the caravan.

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#8 2020-01-09 16:00:00

Casper
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scotchjoe wrote:

Aye casper,very good.I have read your tin tent escapades.
Scored a 3m x 3m drive away awning for £60 on gumtree.It's no lightweight but will only be used when touring without the caravan.

Its the height you need to watch. My rail awning rail was on the roof rack side but could still have done with another foot. This was the 2nd night in Germany and our 2nd time putting it up.

Fail

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#9 2020-01-09 16:01:05

Casper
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Re: Newbie

scotchjoe wrote:

Had a GS550 KATANA in the back of an old post office escort van with the front wheel and forks removed many moons ago.Managed to get the rear doors closed with much pushing and grunting.

Was your Katana as clean as mine?

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#10 2020-01-09 16:23:05

scotchjoe
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Casper wrote:
scotchjoe wrote:

Had a GS550 KATANA in the back of an old post office escort van with the front wheel and forks removed many moons ago.Managed to get the rear doors closed with much pushing and grunting.

Was your Katana as clean as mine?

https://i.postimg.cc/3rmjwHct/01.jpg

That's nice,no mines wasn't as good as yours,not far off though.
Had way too many bikes over the years,mostly VFR's and Pan europeans as nearly always ride 2 up.The wife is a complete bike nut.Unfortunatly too many years slating roofs have took there toll on my back leaving me only able to manage lighter bikes now.The caravan was bought with the proceeds from the sale of a ST1300 PAN(don't see a really sad emoji.)

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#11 2020-01-09 16:49:10

scotchjoe
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Re: Newbie

Casper wrote:
scotchjoe wrote:

Had a GS550 KATANA in the back of an old post office escort van with the front wheel and forks removed many moons ago.Managed to get the rear doors closed with much pushing and grunting.

Was your Katana as clean as mine?

https://i.postimg.cc/3rmjwHct/01.jpg

Still have a front wheel for a Katana,mini_Katana-wheel.jpg

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#12 2020-01-09 17:23:40

Casper
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How i hated them wheels. Waaayyyyy to heavy and a bugger to wash. I never kept my Katana. Bought it for nostalgia reasons when returning to bikes. Took it to college one morning and it was struggling in a headwind. We were booked later that year for a rally in Holland so i thought no way would this do two up with luggage. Bought a GPz750 a few days later and sold the Kat. I had a GS550E back in the 80's and i dont remember them being that slow but then it was my first big bike and i think lighter than the kat.

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#13 2020-01-09 18:17:33

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The Katana's looked faster than they went.Really must clean up the crap behind my shed,that wheel has been round there for about 25 years.

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#14 2020-01-09 19:08:07

vaz2121
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The 125 was brought home for my Partner as she wanted her own bike and the required CBT ..........
Hence why I didn't get the 1050 Tiger at the time...........

We still have it (125).........
I enjoy that sence of irresponsibility ............ from a "little" bike ..........

(apart from sentimentality atachment)
I kept the little {650} Bandit...
(In 2012 {the Lads}We headed to Tralee for few a days did the Ring of Kerry, Molls Gap up to Cong, Giants Causeway, Port Rush and round Noth antrim Coast back to Larne ETC  and the wee Bandit did a fantastic job of dragging my fat ar** plus all the Sh** it carried around)

We did several annual trips to her fathers in Spain with the 306  (But allways saying we'll do it on bike) until
We eventually bought (2015) the van because of my partners Lymphoma as it became apparent that touring and Camping with the bikes as a couple came to a fast conclousion ..........
{Before it really got started}

The 900 F2 went in the Suzuki Carry  and the back doors closed ........... {The front wheel poked out the side door a little ..... door was held forward with a bungie cord around the passenger side door handles)

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#15 2020-01-10 09:47:02

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Any size of bike is good,it's only when you have ridden a bike you can understand why dogs stick their heads out car windows.
See you's mostly kept to Ireland's west coast on your trip.The ring of Beara on the Beara penninsula is beside the ring of Kerry and has superior scenery,but the roads are on the rough side.some of it single track.From Portrush round the coast to Larne on a clear dry day is as good a run as anywhere in the world.It has been used by us for a long Sunday run for many years.Did it stay dry for you's?.....sorry,shouldn't have asked that question.
Stenna line ferries do a bike deal on sailings from Belfast to Cairnryan.Rider and pillion for £55 return,but you return boat must be within 36 hours of departing.We use it as a one way ticket on sailings to Scotland twice a year in May and September to visit my family in Paisley.If the weather forecast was good we would normally head up the west coast of Scotland for a wee tour(best times of the year for midge and tourist free visits). Unfortunately the cost of accommodation,old age and bad health have put an end to any long distance touring on the bike. We have our memories.

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#16 2020-01-11 12:20:00

vaz2121
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Its just my oppinion but I think a good allrounder size is 750

2012 was in late July first few days of August as thats usually when whoever can teams up for around  a week or ten days depending......... IIRC We were about 8 or 10 in total for that trip with riders meeting up on-route Gretna, Dumfries, Cairnryan, Larne, Belfast (Near Harland & Wolff where I had been about 6 weeks earlier for the 100yrs which I missed by a week at Titanic Belfast) and the last conection was somewhere around Newry and the border before  the hit to Dublin.............

Again IIRC about 4 of us stopped at a Camp site on outskirts of Dublin on the Naas road .........
Simply Time of day (Furthest traveled that day had left Banbury early that morning) The rest pressed on arriving late in Tralee but in time for a drink ..........
We caught up with them quite a bit later on the next afternoon as we'd  taken  R routes from Moneygall stopped for a Cuppa and P then got lost around Limerick as you do then to cap it all ....
We went to the completely wrong campsite (that wasn't even in Tralee)

It did rain two nights out of the three in Tralee (and caused much laughter when one tent became flooded)......... But the rest of the time was dry......... 
I think 3 departed after the longish w/end......

When working our way back North we camped at a couple places on the west ......... 
How it came about was none of us had done the Ring of Kerry a libation or two and a Lads get together full of silly talk was as good a reason as any........

We breifly were in Gallway spent a few hours in around Clifden ........
Camped somewhere about there  before heading for Cong and the quietman............

The next night camped somewhere near Irvinestown.........
I think it was called Castle Archdale  apparently they had catalina flying boats stationed there during the war

we left there fairly early in the morning and headed for what turned out as Breakfast in Portrush
I was caught by surprise but should have known better .....
Everyone took off like a scalded cat on entering the Atlantic road
Inc the cruisers .....When the pair of them got that second or so jump on you its surprising how quick there going.............
About the only thing I was working with and not to write home about was a 1150 GS
Never saw the ZZR1100, CBR1100RR,the FJ1300 or the 1250 Bandit until we had all slowed down in Portrush coming up to the Metropole.......
Spent the rest of the day going round sight seeing on the coast to Larne........

The Last night we spent on Islandmagee ..Campsite at Browns Bay
All but two of us got the boat home Thurday ............
Would have stayed if I could as they headed off to Dundrod for the Ulster on the Saturday and sailed home sunday or Monday

I had a memorable trip that week N half ............

I've done a version (several) of what's now called the NC500.......
But I have to say (for me) it needs to include a good few days on Orkney........... (maybe its the company I'm in)

For us (partner & I) I'd say our touring days on a bike are done as she's gone through two lots of chemo now.........
We need to accept and get back into the swing with the van...........

As they say "Old age doesn't come on its own"........

Pretty much just before xmas of all the people my Ex Brother-in-Law wants with me to ship the bikes out to italy (Tuscany...My ex and he are Italian) and ride home.............
Or sail to spain with him and ride home ..........

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#17 2020-01-11 23:06:19

scotchjoe
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You's fitted plenty into your trip.750cc is about all that's needed,but as the years passed,comfort became the new speed.The big touring bikes allowed pain free all day riding.Never managed over to Orkney,well not yet.Like yourselves there will be no more touring on bikes for us.The caravan and the Expert will replace the bikes for wee breaks away.We are starting a new chapter of our life,but I will always own a bike.
We have booked our seats on the start line grandstand for the NW200,hope this year is an improvement on last years wash out.
Hope your partners health improves.

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#18 2020-01-13 13:26:30

vaz2121
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I'd Love to get my Van over For the NW 200 and then having a few days


My tentative claim to fame.........
I'm certainly not In their league............

My Father who's fast approching his 94th Birthday was a Road racer in his day and gave it up after coming off in his early 20's........
After a stern talking to by mother and his Father about him being a New father (My sister) himself plus the money involved in repairs.........
My uncle through marriage and Fathers Best Man at his wedding .......... 
Won the 1958 NW200 (350 class)
He Won it twice apparently and in 1959 Came Second to John Surtees in the senior TT to brag a couple


Obviously Growing up we had plenty visits and I spent time as families do and also over hear the conversation of exploits at IOM, NW and ulster ETC .........

But I have no memorey of ever being at a Race Meeting when He or the other uncle (in name only) were actualy competing...........
But he himself gave up when the other uncle died after a racing accident at Oulton Park in 1962..........

I've had both the bike and the Van to Orkney ..... Sailed over and back on the Catamaran from Gills bay..........
Orkney apart from the Twatt church ....... Sign post....... Village (about 3 houses if lucky).........
Orkney's brilliant if your interested in a bit of sight seeing and history...........

When I went with Lads on bike we used the camp caravan site in Kirkwall (Pickaquoy Centre)

Wildcamped when I took van
(Stromness ferry terminal has showers and laundry facilities)

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#19 2020-01-13 17:29:09

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Bikes are in your blood then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCx2FMtFkqA

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#20 2020-01-14 03:16:12

vaz2121
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scotchjoe wrote:

Bikes are in your blood then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCx2FMtFkqA


Mother for many reasons probably was somewhat very resistive and Anti bike (Even when I was approaching 50 she had words to say) but since 14 yrs old I haven't been far from having a bike of some sort ............
Somewhere around 24 for about 3yrs I was without............
(Skint and hormones probably played a big part)

Till I got a Honda ATC 200 trike a bit by mistake to play with...........
(I'd previously played with a Bultaco  .. I'd gone out with intentions of getting another and brought home the ATC instead {I don't know if a quad is the same as a trike, But it just felt the most unstable imaginable thing to ride...... especially quickly over eneven ground} I enjoyed it)


That's the movie their both in it.............
We've got a copy of that somewhere...........

I think that archive footage is brilliant ...........
Getting to see relatives when they were only about 30 and I was just about to arrive .............

The Casual approach to having a pre race cig and a bit of padding on a lamp post even though managing a 100mph lap  is a safety precautions and it's OK to park cars and bikes at the side of road where your racing...................

Changed days .........

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