Diesel leaking pipe

lincolnexpert · 2020-03-16 14:05:49

There is a collar/ sleeve? with a thread I got it finger tight and then put the banjo back and tightened bolt. It's not moving now. Hopefully that's okay. I'm guessing it is supposed to tighten along with the bolt? But wasn't.

Casper · 2020-03-16 22:05:25

Looks like it should have crush washers. May explain why you are taking in air

kenbw2 · 2020-03-17 01:48:56

I think mine had copper washers when I took it off

lincolnexpert · 2020-03-17 11:32:22

Thanks Fellas. I'll have to see if I can get hold of a Pump diagram somewhere.

lincolnexpert · 2020-03-17 12:33:09

Found this site is good for parts/diagrams. https://injectionpumps.co.uk/ Just got to find a part number on my pump! From what I can work out looking at Banjo Bolts on there it doesn't look like there are any crush washers for them.

Casper · 2020-03-18 17:27:05

Defo looks like them to me mate

lincolnexpert · 2020-03-18 22:25:38

I see what you mean hmm Just been Looking at the pics of mine on page 1 on this thread before I removed it & it I can't see one on it so I'm guessing it was missing and not that I lost it when I removed it. Do we have the same pump? I can't see a number on mine.

Casper · 2020-03-18 22:37:22

Just take the bolt back out if you dont know the size and try halfords or the likes. Also if same diameter as the brake banjo try a motorbike shop. You get mild steel as well as copper type.

lincolnexpert · 2020-03-18 22:47:24

Thanks mate. Would the washer that fits beneath the banjo be the same as the one I have on the top for reference?

lincolnexpert · 2020-03-18 22:52:59

You were right. found the two washers on this diagram https://injectionpumps.co.uk/product/lu … anjo-bolt/
Thanks again smile

found them! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-x-3-8-Copp … SwJoBeTqIP

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lincolnexpert · 2020-03-19 14:37:49

Really struggling with this. Have ordered a couple more washers but I did find a mild steel one and just tried it for now. There is no leaks but it still feels loose. Not the banjo bolt but what ever the bolt screws into still turns. It's looks like some kind of liner and this has movement. Not sure if the 'liner' is screwed in or what. If anyone has a knackered or spare pump sitting around and could just take a look to see how that 'liner' is fitted and if there's any way to tighten it I'd be very grateful.

vaz2121 · 2020-03-20 00:26:06

lincolnexpert wrote:

I see what you mean Just been Looking at the pics of mine on page 1 on this thread before I removed it & it I can't see one on it so I'm guessing it was missing and not that I lost it when I removed it. Do we have the same pump? I can't see a number on mine.

I'm getting Confused the hard steel line to the injector from the pump will have a Brake pipe type of flare fitting at each end..........

The original photo and the hard plastic pipe I mistook for having the issue when I first looked at it ........
Which is now what I take we are talking about.......

To me Clearly has a washer on the Banjo feed bolt ....... In answer to the question "Yes Both copper washers will be identical as is the Norm.........They should as Casper says be available at a motor factors (Spares) and various sizes will be available for varying sizes of Banjo's ETC........
If re-using a copper washer for this or a sump plug Etc..........
Your meant to heat them and anneal them for re-use.........

I'm really unsure what's meant by feels loose..............
the Banjo bolt being hollow by it's very nature and design should be a snug tight as you can't apply a dramatic amount of torque to it without breaking.....

The fact you say it's not leaking sounds in the right tightness area but if fittment is loose and it can't tighten any more it sounds like it being screwed in so far and the bolt has nowhere left to go.........
What Kind of liner do you mean ......... can you show a photo .......... or has someone repaired damaged thread by using a Helicoil and it's slackened off when removing Banjo bolt ?

Sorry I'm getting lost in translation

Casper · 2020-03-20 00:42:08

lincolnexpert wrote:

Really struggling with this. Have ordered a couple more washers but I did find a mild steel one and just tried it for now. There is no leaks but it still feels loose. Not the banjo bolt but what ever the bolt screws into still turns. It's looks like some kind of liner and this has movement. Not sure if the 'liner' is screwed in or what. If anyone has a knackered or spare pump sitting around and could just take a look to see how that 'liner' is fitted and if there's any way to tighten it I'd be very grateful.

Liner?????

Its just a hole with a thread. If spinning the thread is Fu**e* or had a helicoil and that is just as Fooked. Looking at the picture it does not look like a helicoil so if banjo is not tightening after two new crush washers are inserted then i would suggest swapping the pump. As well as keeping fuel in you want to keep air (Thinner) out.

lincolnexpert · 2020-03-20 00:44:57

Thanks for your reply Vaz. If you look at the last photo I uploaded you'll see the banjo removed. In the pump is a threaded Collar/sleeve? Sorry I don't know what it's called. The bolt goes through the banjo and into this. This threaded 'sleeve' inside the Pump feels loose. When I tighten the bolt through the banjo into it the bolt is tight but the collar/sleeve still has movement/play. I am wondering how that threaded part inside the pump is fitted.
Sorry Vaz, I don't know the technical terms but hopefully that makes more sense? hmm

lincolnexpert · 2020-03-20 00:57:46

Its not a hole with a thread as it turns and I am able to tighten it a little with my finger.

Casper · 2020-03-20 01:12:10

Ok that hole (Arrowed) has threads that your banjo bolt screws into. Washer, banjo, washer, banjo bolt. If it does not tighten its one of two things. Fucked threads or its been helicoiled by a previous cowboy and its worked loose. You said the bolt is moving more than once so something is amiss. Option three is the thread on the banjo bolt is shot.

lincolnexpert · 2020-03-20 11:57:50

Well it's nice to be right for once cool The threaded 'thing' is held in there by a T40 Torx bolt. Which I found when I drained all diesel out of the hole and shone a Torch into it. It was loose and so the whole thing was moving even when banjo union and bolt was tight in the thread. All sorted now. Thankfully I don't need a new pump (yet!)
2 new washers ordered. smile

Casper · 2020-03-20 13:27:20

I was under the bonnet this morning and noticed the brake reservoir cap was missing yikes Lucky i had a spare in the back but god knows what happened there as i always double check when tightening things.

lincolnexpert · 2020-03-20 13:35:48

How long do you think it's been off there? yikes Good you got a spare

vaz2121 · 2020-03-20 15:02:20

lincolnexpert wrote:

Well it's nice to be right for once The threaded 'thing' is held in there by a T40 Torx bolt. Which I found when I drained all diesel out of the hole and shone a Torch into it. It was loose and so the whole thing was moving even when banjo union and bolt was tight in the thread. All sorted now. Thankfully I don't need a new pump (yet!)
2 new washers ordered.

Well done you >.... I never knew that was on this pump .......... Any time and Mostly the pumps I entered into in days past were Bosch and I'd have a large Map (Directions) in front of me to guide me in what I was doing.............. But my Ar** ........ eh Backside was still chewing ginger snaps..............
I'd always taken the banjo feed screwed into on any pump to be part of the body/casting.........
Just shows you do Learn something every day.........

A T40 sounds over kill and I'd never have guessed to try or that a T 40 bit would have fitted down there .......But if that's what they've used........

So this old dog will have to Learn New tricks after all ............... {Maybe}

lincolnexpert · 2020-03-20 15:24:32

Hi Vaz, Yes i'm pleased it's sorted. Went to sleep(didn't get much) thinking I might need a new pump! In the pic I uploaded you can actually just make out the torx outline.
Chewing ginger snaps lol

Casper · 2020-03-20 18:38:52

lincolnexpert wrote:

How long do you think it's been off there? Good you got a spare

Dono to be honest. I topped it up about 4-5 weeks ago so around then big_smile

Bady · 2021-02-05 21:02:51

In Addition to the above topic,
Can anyone tell me what id the small rubber injector leak off pipe ID, left injector keeps wet from diesel in my dispatch 2002 1.9D
Appreciate any help

Casper · 2021-02-05 22:11:33

I think 4mm. If wet the rubber under the breaded bit may be split. If you have enough to play with try cutting 4/5mm off the end and pop back on

Casper · 2021-02-05 22:18:17

Folk on the LDV site what uses the same engine in the pilot say 3.2mm

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