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#1 Re: General Discussion » Old and new type rear shocks » 2023-11-09 18:51:06

Sorry for late respons, have been busy lately! I do not have OEM specs at hand, but I know that the new type is about 35mm longer than the old ones, and the change is late 1997. The newer ones will fit and work great on older vehicles, and that's why many parts dealers don't stock the old type any more. But if you try to fit the old type shocks to a newer car (or just a newer type rear axle, as I did), the whole van will be sitting on the rear like a dog doing it's business!

#2 General Discussion » Old and new type rear shocks » 2023-10-30 15:24:56

Norway man
Replies: 4

Showing the difference between the old and new types of rear shock. The change is late 1997. The longer ones are the new, they have their bottom mounts further down and forward compared to the old. Useful to know when you change rear axle.20220820_161930.jpeg

#3 Re: General Discussion » Modifications needed for WVO? » 2022-03-12 11:03:40

I am concerned about electrical load during start-up, but I plan to make a simple 2-tank system, so I start and stop on regular diesel. The filter will then be filled with diesel on start-up.  This way I don't have to switch on the pre-heat until the glow-plugs have done their job. As for temperatures.. I live on the south west coast. Much wind, but relatively mild temeratures. It drops below 10 celcius in october and stays there until late freburay, but seldom below 0. I do plan to run on veg/diesel mix wintertime.
But guys, do you run your cars on veg without ANY modifications at all? Do you even use the standard, toy-like ful filter? roll

#4 Re: General Discussion » Different rear axle on early and late mk1s? » 2022-03-12 10:51:22

OAT wrote:

Interesting, thanks for posting updates.

Mine is I believe built 97, first reg 98.

It doesn't really matter, unless you need to replace the axle. The vehicles you find at the breakers will most likely be post-97. Most parts suppliers don't even carry the older, short dampers. I did find it funny that mine dampers couldn't be streched out to 400 mm.

#5 General Discussion » Modifications needed for WVO? » 2022-03-11 10:38:39

Norway man
Replies: 5

I know the WVO subject has been discussed here many times before, but I can't find anything about modifications for WVO use in our wehicles.
I see in other online resorces that people do different modifications to heat the veg oil before it enters the injection pump. I have a frient who has run old Mercedeses on veg for at least a decade, but when it's cold he sometimes must heat the filter with a hot-air gun to start his car. I dont have the patience for that smile
My Scudo is a 1997 1,9 turbodiesel. According to the papers it's a D8B, but it has a Bosch pump (lucky for me!), and on the pump body it is written XUD with large letters, and that's good enugh for me! tongue
Here is my plan: I will buy a Mercedes-style filter holder for spinn-on filters from the breakers. Then i will buy one of these, eBay item number:281262299398, a silicione heat element with thermostat to wrap around the filter. I will control it with a switch inside the cabin, so I can switch it of if I run on diesel. The thermostat is supposed to cut at 65 degrees celsius, but I will add a temperature gage, just to be sure. I am considering a little boat fuel tank tucked away under the driver's seat, or in the back, with some sort of valve on the feed line, so I can start and stop on straight diesel. I don't thing I need to have a switch valve on the return, I will simply let the return run back to the regular tank all the time. In the manual, downloaded from this forum I saw that scudos with Lucas pump have a temperature regulated after-glow function, that keeps the glow plugs lit a while after start-up. Maybe I'll make a circuit like that, but controlled with a switch rather that a thermostat.
What do the experts say? Does it sound like a plan? Or, like we say in my country, does it sound like a plane?  big_smile

#6 Re: General Discussion » Different rear axle on early and late mk1s? » 2022-03-10 15:02:30

Update! I just found out that vehicles made up to 09.1997 has slightly shorter dampers in the rear. The old ones are 370mm, the newer ones are 400mm. Mine is a 1997, so it is likely that it is of the older ones. I wish I knew this before I crawled under my van and welded in new brackets for the top dampermounts...

#7 Re: General Discussion » Virgin post-oil rev-solution » 2022-01-11 10:01:54

kenbw2 wrote:

You can definitely swap a turbo Lucas and a Bosch lucas, and same for non-turbo.

As for turboing a non-turbo pump, they are different as the turbo pump has a mushroom attachment on the top of the Bosch one, so you wouldn't get more fuelling on boost if you put your J8 one in your Expert

Ok. Better be lookimg for a Bosch from a turbo car then. Thanks!  smile

#8 Re: General Discussion » Virgin post-oil rev-solution » 2022-01-10 22:29:02

Reading this with great interest as I'm considering a veg oil conversion. Mine is a 1,9 TD D8B (I think) engine with Lucas pump. I also own an old(er) Peugeot J5 camper with XUD9 (non-turbo), fitted with Bosch pump. So my question is: Are these pumps interchangeable? It would make sense if turbo egines had more powerful pumps.. does anyone know?

#9 Re: Maintenance » Heater blower » 2022-01-10 22:04:51

I'm reading this thread with great interest, as I have a blower issue as well. Will the fan be totally dead if the resistor fails? On many cars the blower will still run on full speed when the resistor fails, but not on the lower settings.

#10 Re: General Discussion » Different rear axle on early and late mk1s? » 2021-12-10 17:37:58

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These photos are of my old axle. They show that the damper mount is aprox. 65mm from the top of the reinforcment and 140mm from the axle.
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These photos show the "new" axle on the car. They show that the damper mount here is aprox 95mm from the top, and 155 from the axle. This means that the damper now sits 30mm lower, and 15mm forward. So, if the dampers are the same on both new and the old mk1's (witch the parts no's suggest), the top mounts must have been altered on newer cars. I didn't manage to get a good photo of the top mount, but the distance from the rear crossmember to damper mount is aprox 520mm. I wonder if someone with a post-facelift mk1 wold like to measure this on their car?

#11 Re: General Discussion » Different rear axle on early and late mk1s? » 2021-12-10 17:12:45

Actually I live in the south-west of the country. We have more rain and wind than snow. But the last week or two has been colder than usual.  smile

#12 Re: General Discussion » Different rear axle on early and late mk1s? » 2021-12-06 00:45:20

I'll try to dig my old axle out of the snow one of the coming days and take more accurate measurments and photos on both the old axle and the "new" one.

#13 General Discussion » Different rear axle on early and late mk1s? » 2021-12-02 01:07:37

Norway man
Replies: 9

Hello there! I own a 1997 Fiat Scudo. The rear axle was corroded beyond repair, and I was looking for a replacement for quit a long time. I finally found a Citroen Jumpy (the stupid name the norwegian Citroen dealership gave the Dispatch) at the breakers with an axle in descent condition. It was a newer car (aprox. 2003), so I wasn't sure that the axle was identical, manufacturers tend to change stuff during the lifespan of a model. hmm I took the essential measurments from my old axle and measured on the donor car before removing the axle, everything looked identical. Back home I de-rusted and paited it and pressed in new bushes. The axle went on the car and fitted perfectly except... The ride hight! When unloaded, the wheels sits like the car was fully loaded. It seemed like the shocks were too short. So I went and got the measuring tape again and found that the lower shock mounting sits aprox. 15-20 mm lower on the "new" axle, compared to the old one. So I thought to my self: "Aha! I just need to get later type shocks, they are probably longer!" big_smile I went online and seached with various parts suppliers, but it seemed like the entire Scudo/Dispatch/Expert mk1 range used the same type shocks in the rear all the way from start to the end, every one I found had a max lenght of 400 mm, more or less the same as on my car. The breaker where I found the donor vehichle is quite a long way from where I live, and I'm not ever shure iif the car still exist. I do not have access to any other mk1s for comparison. So, after my long story: What shall I do? What are the differences on the rear suspension between early and later models mk1, except the position of the lower shock mounting? The top of the rear shocks tilt quite a lot bacwards, so if I move the upper mount a bit forwards I can increase the effective lenght a bit, but is this the right way to do it? Someone must have had the same problem before? Help!   hmm

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