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Hi all. Just to update you on this problem. after another diagnostic and a full wire connectivity check i decided on getting a second hand unit. i managed to get one delivered for £125 all in this was a good price as most were asking for £250 ish.
I put the pump on and all was resolved. steering is sweet as and better than i had ever had it!
This proved that the recon/repair had not been successful.. I duly asked for a refund and low and behold i got one in full! This i was grateful for
but it took so long and so much stress and hard work not to mention additional costs for diagnostics.. oh well lesson learnt.
I must admit i have learnt alot about EHPS pumps in the process!! and the van in general and overpriced repair services that dont always work.
If you do need to change the pump your self it is quite easy so dont be afraid to have a go. note there are 3 types also. so make sure you have the right plug connection. also if they are second hand you wont need to have it coded to yr van as i was led to believe!! only new pumps need coding. if i had known this from the start i would have just bought a second hand pump!
Thanks for all involved. I hope this thread helps someone else.
Just an update on the catch can mod i made on the van! I can certainly say that it has made a vast improvement to the amount of smoke i am getting upon acceleration! I am still getting some.. maybe this will clear up as i drive some more as everything will be coated in oil etc/.. lets see.
weeks later and its so much better. the van seens to be more powerful too. the mod is a good one.
too true.. many thanks and a pleasure. Nice one, and thanks for all your efforts.
will look into it. thanks again
many thanks vaz
Its so confusing i must agree! i was reading a dispatch review i think by Honest John and it stated there that DPF were not as standard on dispatch? there are so many versions of engines in the same van its unreal. all different specs and parts?? crazy.. I would not know what euro my van is?? i am still unsure about the dpf now..
Thanks for your contact.. its nice to have some interest in these things and reflection.. or i would go mad.
have a fault code of P0602 fault downloading or absence??? can anyone shed some light?
sorry this might not be the facelift i thought it was?
Hi again. I have had a response from a admin member on the french car forum and they looked up my van and said it has no DPF fitted. it is the 6 speed van. sorry for confusion but my van shape is the next one. I thought that was the facelift? they just phased mine out for the VW lookalike... lol. mine was one of the first ones like this. made 2006 reg 2007. apparently a DW10UTED4 engine. my log book has on it version X'RHK'
also in my service book it has sections on the dpf for c1-c8 but non for dispatch? I dont think dispatch did them until 2011?
mt last vin numbers are 64031060. can anyone help with some info?
I have had a look into this and i believe i do not have a dpf nor fap tank.. I can not find a tank under the van I did think i had a dpf but i read a post in the peugeot forum on the same year and engine and it says no DPF..?
thanks for all of this. i was unaware. i am looking into this now.
just fitted my pump after it came back from BBA Reman.
The van and steering are exactly the same! cost is £300 upto now and lots of stress and hard work and i am still on the first square. took it back to my garage and they plugged it in to a snap-on diagnostic £6k worth.. they said its got the same error codes as before. they still think the electro-hydraulic pump is at fault!
BBA said they have changed a seal inside which failed and flooded the pcb? and motor! cleaned tested and sent back but i saw no sign of work on the unit. joint seals look old and unbroken. not sure what to think! not happy.
Thank you for your continued interest and input. I do think this info is of great value and take it on board! you are right it does have a DPF and it has been of some concern to me. what do you mean by eolys tank?
I also have had concerns for the turbo as i know for a fact oily deposits have been lacing it and my whole engine for years!
I have been trying to use fuel additives and Kerosene of late to clean what i can including help with the dpf but any other suggestions i am open to? I have also started using non supermarket fuel as i have heard alot of bad reviews on this cheap dirty fuel at supermarkets!
Sorry no this is the mk2 facelift.. 2.0l hdi 120
Totally different to the 1.6 hdi
Thank you for the reply.
I had my diagnosed and they said it was the pump at fault so i have sent it for the recon it needs. its hopefully coming back today fixed with a lifetime garentee. £225 ebay. only problem is it takes about a week to get it all done. i have used the van tho!! drained all oil from rack etc... very heavy on the arms. lol
Thank you for you advice! I totally agree with you!
I have put the catch can on. i did modify it as it came with no filter whatsoever! I put in stainless steel wool/pads usually used to scrub the pans in the kitchen sink. also a divide with a thick tin foil between the inlet and outlet port of the catch can! including a gauze on the outlet to prevent any loose wool escaping along the line into the air intake. ( I will be keeping a close eye on this as it will be the first thing to block up)!! thankfully its just a case of taking off the outlet hose on the can and replacing or cleaning the gauze which is in the outlet spout!
The original hose that comes off the top of the engine that was brittle with age i disposed of. I used some heavy duty hose and it slipped straight into the remaining pipe at either end. i.e Top of engine breather outlet and where it connects to the air intake tubing after the air filter. The old brittle pipe i took out i left a bit at each end so to speak. I did use the old silver heat shield and also some additional silver/aluminium tape to protect the new hose near the engine and secure the ends of the hoses at each end where i slotted them in!
This seems to be a working model! I did run the engine while i had the pipes disconnected and the breather was thick with oily smoke!! proving that the original filter is not doing its job!! now the recycled air going thru my engine is much cleaner. i can also see water condensing in the catch can which i dont want in my turbo/ inter cooler or intake/ engine!
My van has not had a hard life. its only done light work and 95k on 2007 I just think maybe its not had as many oil changes as i would have given it! At least every 10k or year a change should be done!! i did mine twice in the same day with an engine flush in the first with kerosene.. much cheaper than the shelf products but virtually the same! I did this just to get my oil clean and have a fresh start so i can monitor this idea and method i am using! I also put kerosene in the fuel as it will clean thru the oil and deposits left by the dirty breather! Just as a note whilst i was changing the oil filter i managed to knock off a vacuum pipe!! i lost turbo and it took my 2 days and sleepless nights to figure out what was wrong and to find the problem! no vacuum!! no turbo! only just got this lot done so I will post again with my findings. Also this week i have changed my front brake disks and pads. flushed out the old brake fluid and replace with new dot 4 fluid! and today i must refit my electric hydraulic power steering pump which i have had reconditioned due to sudden intermittent failure of the power steering!
Please do share your views. thanks. dan
Please tell me why do the glow plugs appear to be at the back of the engine and not the front like normal vans?
How are you supposed to change them?
I do have a defective one and want to change them. please help.
I came to this from my mechanic.. After the intercooler was leaking and spitting oil out he seemed to think that the filter in the top of the engine that demists the crank case vapours was not effective.. It only seems to smoke on hard acceleration.
I dont have to top up the oil as it does not really use that much.. it lasts a year or 10k. it does go down a little maybe a mug full is used in this time? what he said seems to make sense.. but a new filter from citroen is over £500 with gasket. it has always smoked in the 18month i have had it. oil in inter cooler means oil at the turbo could mean its coming through the breather or a leak at the turbo?
I have just fitted a catch can between the engine top and air inlet after the air filter. just taped into the line. it was brittle after 10 years of heat and broke in half in my hand befor i even had chance to chop it. i have oil/carbons down the back of the engine between the fire wall/bulkhead..? i am guesing it is also breather issues leaking? the lines were oiled and carbonated. I have flushed the engine and done 2 oil changes to get back to clean oil so i will let u know what the outcome is!
please share your views.
I am led to believe my van is smoking because the crank case vapours are not filtering and thus going back into the combustion chamber for burning!!
Any ideaS?
Thinking of putting in my own oil catcher to solve!!?
THats right. it has an electric pump to pump the hydraulic fluid instead of it being run mechanically off a pulley belt!
It is more efficient and less strain on the engine as so you get better engine results ie fuel economy.
They are prone to going though.. They are made up of the pump and an ecu attached full of circuitry and chips!
Mine has gone the same way. I am looking at getting it replaced but they are costly. you may be able to get yours reconditioned for a fraction of the price and maybe get a lifetime Guarantee to boot? ebay?
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