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Hi all,
Its been more than a few months but a quick update as promised.
The J&R driveshaft has been no trouble at all. The old Scudo has done another 10000 miles since it was replaced and is still quite and smooth.
Quite a few of those miles have been towing my caravan backwards and forwards from Norwich to Wales so its given the driveshafts a work out. I have to say the Scudo is probably the best towcar I've ever owned, it effortlessly tows my caravan that weighs just over a tonne and returns between 32 and 34 mpg while doing it!!
Cheers Tim.
The only time that really leaves me with a feeling of just how lucky I was happened a few years ago in France.
My wife and I were on a two week tour of southern France in our self build motorhome which was built into a Fiat Ducato.
Just before leaving for France during routine maintenance I had discovered the steering rack was leaking power steering fluid and along with some small play in the inner track rod ends i decided to order a reconditioned steering rack.
Ordered one from a specialist who only rebuilt steering racks so thought they'd know whet they were doing, changed it over and thought no more of it.
So we're in the south of France and my wife asks me to pull over into a layby so she can take a picture of the views, we were descending a very twisting mountain road and the views were spectacular. As I went to pull out of the layby the steering wheel suddenly felt strange and the van would not move forwards, jumped out to find the two front wheels pointing at very different angles, had a look underneath and one of the track rods had snapped.
Got recovered and after an overnight stay on a garage forecourt a new trackrod was fitted. When I looked at the one that had failed it looked like it had been machined down in a lathe, and the inner track rod end was so tight I couldn't move it. Clearly the joint was so tight it had caused the already machined down track rod to fatigue and fail.
I still shudder at the thought of what could have happend had that failed while we were going round one of the hairpin turns we had been driving along only minutes before, I do know it was a bloody long way down a cliff face from up there!!
When I returned to the UK i took it up with VOSA and they instigated a full investigation into the company and asked them to change some of their practices.
Cheers Tim
Having an identical van I wondered this and from what I can find out the answer is yes.
If I put my reg into an online parts retailer they always show DMF's not solid ones for my 2004 2.0 jtd Scudo. I'm aware that this is less than full-proof but along with what I've read online I believe it does.
Cheers Tim.
Hi all,
Just thought i'd let you know about the issues I've been having and a word of warning that might be of help.
Ever since I got my Scudo it has had a strange rumbly vibration that was clearly wheel speed related, it tended to be quiet when first driven and then after a few miles the sounds would get slightly worse. It made noises on both acceleration as well as on the overrun. I finally got fed up with it and having noticed a small split in the inner CV boot on the drivers side I decided to have the driveshaft out and take a look while replacing the boot. I had a quick look on Euro Car Parts and found that a complete replacement drive shaft (Q Drive brand) was only £70 after their usual "sale discount" so decided i'd make my life easy and just throw a new one in.
Completed the job and took the van up the road, glorious silence!! I was well happy, all the rumbly vibration and a few other odd noises gone.
Fast forward a couple of weeks and I'm towing my small caravan up to Yorkshire and I begin to notice the rumble returning, quite quiet but just audible. Bugger - so back to the drawing board I think. On returning from my break I was busy so didn't have a chance to look any deeper but the sounds got worse and worse until a couple of days ago a distinct clunk between acceleration and deceleration particularly in the lower gears started. This really started to worry me, particularly as I'm off for a weeks holiday this weekend and will be towing the caravan on a 500 mile round trip! So I take a look underneath and can't really identify anything terrible so I hit the internet and decide to see if anyone else has had this problem with ECP Q Drive driveshafts. Oh how I wished I'd done this before, I have yet to find a good review of them, the forums are littered with complaints, professional mechanics won't touch them as they never last more than a few months. One person said theirs had failed within 7 miles!!
So I ordered another driveshaft from J&R in Birmingham, excellent next day service and a two year warranty, fitted it last night and once again I have a quiet van. When I return from my holiday I will be taking the Q Drive drive shaft back to ECP for a refund.
So a word of warning, if you need a driveshaft I wouldn't touch a Q drive one if I were you!!
I will update this thread in a few months time and let you know how the J&R one is holding up!
Cheers Tim.
Forgot to mention too. Try running with your MAF sensor unplugged. Mine ran smoothly indicating a faulty MAF. Sorry I missed this bit out!
Thanks Wizzer, you were spot on!!
Disconnected the MAF and it now runs perfectly, in fact it drives so much nicer then it ever has in my ownership. Picks up from low down, no surging under acceleration, it even seems to run smoother. New MAF ordered.
Thanks for your help everyone.
Cheers Tim.
I recently had the exact same symptoms with my 2.0hdi Expert. Drove normally then under hard acceleration it surged and was really noticeable! For me, it was a faulty MAF. Determined this by cleaning the old one and the surging minimised but was still present. I bought a used OEM one from ebay for £10. Took 5 mins to fit and now there is no surging at all and she accelerates smoothly again.
That's interesting thank you.
Finally had time to change the turbo hose which means I can use all the boost again, unfortunately this has not fixed the surging issue. I have one of those gauges that plug into the OBDII port and you can cycle through and see real time feeds of different information while driving so I have plugged it in and asked it to show absolute manifold pressure. What does surprise me is that when accelerating hard in fourth or fifth I can see readings of up to 36psi, which is up to 21psi of boost, this to me seems quite high for these engines, in my experience most "low performance" diesels tend to have no more than 15psi of boost. Does anyone know at what pressure the wastegate is supposed to open?
What I was wondering is if one of the vans previous owners has messed with the wastegate in a ham-fisted attempt to get more power and the management system is detecting an overboost and then backing off the fuelling causing the surging effect.
I think from here I will try cleaning the MAF like Wizzer suggested and see if that makes a difference, if it does I'll change the MAF and see how it goes. If that doesn't help I might see if I can easily adjust the wastegate pressure back to 15psi of boost and see if that helps.
Cheers Tim.
Thanks for your reply.
As far as I know these do not have a variable vane turbo, just the normal wastegate with rod. That said I'll take a look at the weekend when I have it up on the lift.
I had wondered about a small split opening and closing causing the fluctuations so I think I'll replace the split hose and then take it for a run.
I have recently got hold of one of these Gauges that plug into the OBDII port, so I can get that to show manifold pressure and give it some beans and see what the boost pressure does.
Cheers Tim
Hi Guys,
Any ideas on this one??
Used my van up until August of last year and then the MOT expired and it stood unused until Christmas. I have now started using it again properly and noticed a problem it hadn't had before, it has started to surge under acceleration. Once the boost comes on at about 2000rpm it starts to take off in its usual way but then hesitates, then it accelerates strongly again, and then hesitates, it does this 3-4 times between 2000-3000 rpm. The other thing is it has always seemed a bit gutless below 2000 rpm, I know all turbo diesels are a bit that way but this seems worse.
As the van is slowly being converted into a day van I'm going to be using it to tow our caravan. This weekend just gone was its first outing towing, a nice trip from Norwich to Pontefract and back and it became apparent this was more of a problem than I thought. With 1000kg of caravan it would not pull 3rd, 4th or 5th at anything less than 2000rpm, and the hesitation in the acceleration was clearly a problem. Then to cap it off on the way home while on one of its good moments it split a turbo hose - doh! It happened on an uphill stretch as I was passing a layby so pulled straight in. Half a mile of gaffa tape around the hose got us home using back roads and keeping the boost right down.
I'll replace all the flexible hoses in the boost pipework but I just wondered if anyone had any experience with this surging problem? I have changed the fuel filter thinking fuel starvation and that hasn't fixed it.
Just to clarify, 2004 Fiat Scudo, with the 2.0 HDI engine, 120000 on the clock.
Thanks in advance
Tim.
Just thought I'd give you a quick update with this. So it turned out to be two issues, the first being that as suggested the seal was badly crushed/the wrong size and no longer able to seal. The second issue was that the threads in the plastic housing were completely choked up with road grime and grit, this made turning the threaded collar very difficult, as soon as any pressure was applied to the threads the whole thing locked up and couldn't nip up the seal.
5 minutes with some diesel and a paint brush (being bloody careful not to get any grit in the filter housing!) and a new seal/filter and the leak is fixed.
Flew through its MOT so all good for another year.
Thanks for the advice.
Cheers Tim
Hi all,
Just got back from an abandoned MOT attempt!!
Did all my usual checks before heading to my MOT place and all was fine, when I got there the chap doing my MOT had only been at it 2 minutes when he came through and said there was a puddle of diesel on the floor under the van. I went through and took a look and there was diesel dripping from the fuel filter at a rate of perhaps a drip per second. I have a great relationship with the garage I use so we tried a few things to fix it. After cleaning it and re-starting it we could see the leak was coming from under the locking ring on the top of the filter. We tried to tighten it but couldn't get any movement on it. At this point the MOT was abandoned as it was only going to make a mess over the workshop floor and was a fail anyway!!
I am about to order a replacement fuel filter and seal in the hope that its just a faulty seal, but I just wondered if anyone else had come across this problem before? Also looking on ECP website it lists two different filters, one for the Bosch system and one for the Siemens system, anyone know how to tell the difference easily?
I should add this is for the 2004 Fiat JTD (Peugeot HDI?) turbo engine.
I couldn't believe it as it was fine when I had left home!
Cheers Tim
I used to be a member of ADAC which for about £100 a year covered all my vehicles no mater how old, hear and within Europe. Unfortunately my cover lapsed and they are no longer taking on new business.
I only ever used them once, I was in the south of France with our Fiat Ducato motorhome, when the left hand track rod snapped off where it joins the rack, luckily as we were pulling out of a layby. One of those breakdowns that without cover would have been a serious problem. ADAC were great, we waited about 50 minutes for a tow truck who took us to a local garage who had it repaired within 24 hours.
What made the whole thing so annoying was that I had only replaced the steering rack 500 miles before, as the old one was leaking and a re-conditioned one was the simplest option. So the track rods were supposedly new!
Brilliant, thank you.
This is exactly what I was looking for, most of the aftermarket van window suppliers don't stock anything for the pre 2006 Scudo/Dispatch
Hi,
I really like what you did with the windows on Blueberry Muffin.
Looking to do something similar to mine so I was wondering where you got them from?
Cheers Tim.
Thanks for the welcome!
No our Cinquecento is Red, we bought it from an old lady who had owned it from new and done a whopping 29,000 miles in it in 22 years. We've put 10,000 miles on it in 18 months - poor thing doesn't know whats hit it!!
Just a quick update, on the binding brakes it looks like someone has had the master cylinder changed at some point and whoever fitted it had no idea about adjusting the servo push rod to suit the new master cylinder. It was protruding 3.5mm to far, which wasn't allowing the master cylinder to return back far enough to open the transfer port that stops pressure build up when the brakes warm up in normal driving, so slowly the pressure was increasing, causing the brakes to bind more and a viscous circle was started. All sorted now, with a full fluid change and new front discs and pads. I wouldn't trust the old ones as they had been thoroughly cooked 
I'll leave the timing belt for now but when i have time I think i'll take it off and replace it with a new belt kit and waterpump, just for my own peace of mind.
Cheers Tim
Hi All,
So my names Tim and I have just bought a 2004 Fiat Scudo 2.0 JTD SX. Paid £900 for it, 107,000 miles, straight body work and clean cab area but needs a little bit of love.
A little about myself, I run a small engineering business (one man band) so making/fixing bits etc is not an issue for me. I'm a pretty competent mechanic having rebuilt engines, gearboxes etc in the past. I've been lurking for the past couple of weeks after finally letting my beloved E39 BMW go, 18 mpg around town and 27ish on a run (petrol) was just not something my small business could afford, oh what fun that car was though!!
So decided a Scudo looked the best option for me, I also own a very tidy and original Fiat Cinquicento, along with a second generation Fiat Ducato that my wife and I converted into a motorhome a few years ago, so do love my Fiats.
So on to my new purchase!
First question is has any one else come across having a clutch pedal with a lot of travel in it because the pivot where the pedal joins the master cylinder is very worn? Looks like I will need to take it apart and possibly sleeve the pivot point.
Second question, Drove it home from Sheffield to Norwich yesterday and it ran very well apart from when nearing norwich all of a sudden the bakes started to bind, both the front wheels equally, not the rears. Pedal also went very hard at this point but i'd say thats expected with how hot they were. This morning they seem to have released because I can roll it forward on my drive with no effort at all. I have read about possible issues with the cross shaft needing lubricating or the brake servo adjusting, just wondered if anyone else had had the same issues and how they'd fixed them? (I have searched but not much seems to have come up on this forum).
Thirdly, I have a garage bill to say it has just had its cambelt done, but from the itemised bill I can see they only replaced the belt, not the idlers or water pump. Is this normal? In the past i've always tended to replace the water pump and idlers as a matter of course, but I don't know these engines at all so just wondering what the norm was. I will be giving it a very thorough service over the nest couple of weeks so may well pop the cover off and have a look to make sure it is actually a new belt, not that I don't trust mechanics or anything!!
Sorry for the long winded post, I'll stop there but I expect more questions will pop up in the weeks to come.
Many thanks in advance
Cheers Tim.
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