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Thanks guys, I didn't think of the gear gator! That reminds me, there's not much left of the existing gator and the gear knob seems to spin freely without unscrewing, are they easy to replace with universal parts? I've never done anything like this before so it's all a learning curve but I refuse to pay somebody to do it, if it ends up looking shit, it'll be my shit
I put one of the leather gaiters on off ebay was £8.95 but really good quality and fits perfect just a bit of glue needed
I am michael finnegan on fiat forum and usually russell sprout on others just for comedy value really
More or less what the wet gypsy said but one the torx are out take out the ash tray to make it easier to get the lighter out. Just pull it as it has the plastic tangs that pop out when pushed in place. As i am tight i just put one in my pocket last time i was in the scrap yard.
"The wet gypsy" lol you shitbag
I am from a family of working narrowboats hence the username, why you called casper mate?
Hi mate I have replaced mine it was a few years ago but if memory serves correct, unclip the gear gaiter and undo the two torx screws on the left. I think this releases the entire facia including the spring loaded cover.
Then it's a case of prying the lighter out, one of them plastic clips behind that you need to press. I found this the most awkward part.
I was quoted £35 for a oem one from citroen so I replaced with one like this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal-Car … SwEgVWT0WG
I did have to file a small amount off the facia and add spade connectors to make it fit, the replacement had a separate feed for bulb same as the one I've linked. So it is no longer lit but is still working well 2 years later
The vans haunted mate
is my first thought but i think same as casper the contact in the adjuster button thingy probably, or the spirit of the last owner 
Hi guys, new guy here so sorry for what I'm sure will be a load of silly questions! We're thinking of buying one of these van to convert into a sort of day van/camper. We have a budget of 3k, although I'd rather spend 2k on the van and use the rest on the conversion.
My main concern is mileage, should a 200 plus ex police Fiat scare me or is it a viable option?
Should I try and buy the newest possible regardless of vehicle age, or should I just buy the lowest mileage even if it's old?
Cheers in advance.
Hi, all good advice in the above posts.
200k wouldn't put me off looking at a 1.9 N/A but i would test the gearbox in all gears for notchiness and dropping out of gear the gearbox is the weak link on these vans in my experience.
Personally i would shy away from ex police vans because they are usually city mileage rather than motorway, but on the flip side the mileage is more likely to be correct if it is direct from the police.
I always judge a vehicle on its condition rather than it's mileage as this is the most relevant on vans of this age, for example a 50k van that has had overheating problems or oil starvation in the past is not going to be as good as a 200k van
It's just a pic of the front end found on google that i have planned mate, i've not sourced one yet.
Aye the rear arch ain't straight forward but doable i think, luckily hubs are bolted and not studs
Casper wrote:So a bit of luck all you want is Grill, Bonnet, lamps and bumper. Sound easy
Watergypsy wrote:A spares or repeair van would be the only option i reckon, headlights £100 a piece
you can buy a 55 plate non runner for £300!
You must have crap scrap yards. I think i could have that lot for £100-150 max up our end. A went with a friend to scrap an old Fiesta £5 is all he got when a couple of years ago i got £125 for a 306 from the same yard so the scrap man is making a good profit so dont be scared to haggle.
Yes crap scrap yards here in coventry and surrounding areas, there used to be some fantastic ones, little gold mines!
But I think the new law introduced about 20 years ago which demanded hard standing sites finished them off
This is the front end i intend to use
I also plan to modify the rear arches so they are enclosed like the old DS and such, a bit like my avatar pic, the side door replicates my plan 
Hmm, Next time im at the scrap yard im going to do some closer inspection and get the measuring tape out. More i look the more you are sounding correct. I had an early Escort van years afo and they came out with a face lift of that. The bonnet latch just like this face lift sat higher, all ford did was use a longer latch
So a bit of luck all you want is Grill, Bonnet, lamps and bumper. Sound easy
A spares or repeair van would be the only option i reckon, headlights £100 a piece
you can buy a 55 plate non runner for £300!
I could be wrong mate, I'm just guessing with the knowledge of headlight fitments matching.
And also the plastic trim under Mk1 headlight throws ya eye
Yes were on the same hymn sheet mate, the top of the headlight is in the exact same position where it meets the grill on both models trust me.
The bonnet bulge throws the perspective a bit
I was presuming the new MK2 model grafted on the old MK1. Forgot about the face lift what may be harder than he thinks. The front bodywork under the bumper grill etc will differ also to hold fatter lights and bonnet strike is further forwards. This would be welded in place making the whale task more hassle than its worth.
I have also considered modding my van this way 'facelift front end without the ugly dodgem wrap around bumper body panels on the facelift' would make a better looking van in my opinion.
It maybe more hassle than its worth, but i don't think its a big task if you consider the wings are the same, and until now i thought the front panel was too? So if you were to source lights bonnet front bumper and grill at the right money jobs a good un!
I will report back if i ever get it done, but i'm pretty sure the lights bolt straight on once the grill is removed
Who knows pal! The OP will probabably confirm if he is after euro 4 compliance or van specifics, my guess on the 2nd pic would be E7 is probably refering to 7 seats
I think euro 4 applys to all vehicles mate even HGV just different years comply.
And yes i think E4 refers to taxi on the scudo etc to. But i thought he was asking about the euro 4 charge
Guys, How do you know if a vehicle is Euro 4 ?? Recently bought a 55 plate that was (and is currently) SORN... Where does it give you the info. Thanks in advance.
Here mate,
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/low-emission-zone
To my knowledge if registered before January 1st 2002 non LEZ compliant, so yours should be fine.
I don't live in London or drive into London so absolutely no first hand experience on this though 
Windows 7 pal, Ha Ha could be the issue.
True but At 60mph I doubt my old van could have done it in more than 35mpg with bike and dog and all camping gear in the back, but in all honestly it just keeps going and touch wood unbelievably reliable, which is very significant to cost efficiency in my book
Dunno pal, I have to put alot of weight on the left hand side door to get the latches to engage! and absolutely no movement once closed, so possibly there is some adjustment available.
Thanks pal, pleased with 31.8. i did 70mph on the motorway return journey which probably cost me it seems to be a lot more frugal at 60.
Thanks for the link, but it don't seem to work for me
I did a round trip of 184.4 miles at the weekend it cost me £30 Is that bad?
Was fully loaded and last 20 miles back and forth into central Wales (very hilly) i paid £1.08 a litre.
I can't be arsed to work out mpg ,but if any of you can please do
Same engine DW8
I am a bit bias, well alot bias toward the 806/synergie seats as they save alot of hassle and can have thm in in a couple of hours ,
Water Gypsie was your T4 the 2.4 ? the 1.9 scudo has only 5 hp less !! I had a t3 with a tdi lump in it (so mutch rot though !) and went through 3 gearboxs ,, will never have another moneypits dont know the fasination either with VW vans with the engine up front swb T4,T5s are tiny inside
It was 1.9 mate on a V plate, It was a decent van as low as could go,
It slipped a few teeth on the cambelt so sold it £1800 non runner!..
Don't get me wrong i like the vans but i don't like the scene much
Hi pal, as casper says anything is possible, if you get the base out of a two seater van for the passenger side too!
I'm guessing your considering the scenic seats because they swivel (captain seats) which is understandable but once you have the two bases you can build a simple frame and bolt it too them, theres four holes and actually perfect bases to build off, and weld any seat lower runners to them.
I chose Hyundai coupe leather seats and intend to add a universal swivel under the drivers seat at some point, but i am a steel fabricator by trade so probably see it from a different light!
I actually have a pair of scenic seats whch i intended to put in my old T4 before some fool offered me silly money for it
I didn't adapt these to my dispatch because there blue and ugly, but i can measure them up tomorrow if you like.
Now that is cool, looks fast too!
This guy got it right

Back to Citroen's.......
http://dispatchexpertscudo.org.uk/forum … 68/FFS.jpg
Brilliant!
I'm a practical man and can see his thinking... It was free it fits on backwards provides a superb sunscreen and doesn't take up any valuable space lol.
Unfortunately it looks ridiculous and ugly as sin, or possibly the results of a head on collision!