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#1 2019-06-23 19:40:10

Tiree
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From: Castle Douglas
Registered: 2013-09-20
Posts: 206

Starting issue ...

Evenin folks ..

A couple of times in the last two weeks, my van has refused to start.

Both time it's been after a bit of a run, so the engine is warm. But after coming back to the van after five minutes or so - it just won't start.

On both occasions, waited for another five mins or so and tried again - started fine.

Battery and starter are dandy-o - it turns over strongly - just doesn't fire.

So that sounds like a fuelling issue? Filter was changed 6 months ago [will check it tomorrow though] .. and why does it start again fine after five minutes?

Thoughts welcome!


2006 Citroen Dispatch 2.0HDi bought in July 2013 - Partial camper conversion ........

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#2 2019-06-23 20:02:06

kenbw2
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From: Bradford/Preston/Anywhere
Registered: 2017-11-26
Posts: 376

Re: Starting issue ...

Anything on the diagnostics port?

Does the HDi have an equivalent of cracking one of the injectors so you can check if fuel is being delivered? Remove the leak off pipes maybe?


2000 Citroen Dispatch 1.9TD XUD9 Camper Conversion + full time home
1999 Citroen Dispatch 1.9D DW8 Disassembled Camper Conversion
1996 Peugeot 806 1.9TD XUD9 Spare vehicle
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#3 2019-06-23 22:50:17

Ricko
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From: SW Lancs
Registered: 2017-01-18
Posts: 220

Re: Starting issue ...

After the experience of my Hdi refusing to start I believe that all faults are electrical these days!


2004 Citroen Dispatch 2.0 Hdi

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#4 2019-06-23 23:11:42

Tiree
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From: Castle Douglas
Registered: 2013-09-20
Posts: 206

Re: Starting issue ...

Ta for the replies smile

kenbw2 wrote:

Anything on the diagnostics port?

Does the HDi have an equivalent of cracking one of the injectors so you can check if fuel is being delivered? Remove the leak off pipes maybe?

Will try to get it hooked up to diagnostics tomorrow - no idea about injectors or leak-off pipes I'm afraid - any guidance appreciated!

Ricko wrote:

After the experience of my Hdi refusing to start I believe that all faults are electrical these days!

What was the fault, Ricko?


2006 Citroen Dispatch 2.0HDi bought in July 2013 - Partial camper conversion ........

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#5 2019-06-23 23:26:57

vaz2121
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From: SW. Scotland
Registered: 2015-08-31
Posts: 573

Re: Starting issue ...

My HDI experiences were a major PITA .................
One of those symptoms was very much like as you put forward here
Have the Injectors tested to see if one is weak and allowing fuel leakage back to return when cranking over therefore not achieving line pressure and failed start
Your description is very much how my symptoms started out and then progressed (seemed fairly quickly) to being a lottery whether it would even start.......

Testing can be done in situ
Otherwise I'm with Ricko and his electrical theory.....................

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#6 2019-06-24 00:17:48

Casper
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From: East Lothian
Registered: 2015-12-20
Posts: 1,305

Re: Starting issue ...

I had a motor years ago that would not start when hot. Turned out to be the starter motor for some reason.

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#7 2019-06-25 06:04:51

Ricko
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From: SW Lancs
Registered: 2017-01-18
Posts: 220

Re: Starting issue ...

Tiree, my fault was traced to a bad connection to the main board, it had been arcing and subsequently damaged a main relay.


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#8 2019-06-25 08:55:42

vaz2121
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From: SW. Scotland
Registered: 2015-08-31
Posts: 573

Re: Starting issue ...

Casper wrote:

I had a motor years ago that would not start when hot. Turned out to be the starter motor for some reason.

I've suffered that problem also Casper.....

Changed the starter ....... behaved just the same ........... still no crank until it stood for 15 ... 20 mins.......... IIRC

Nothing wrong with starter But a heat sheild had been removed and not replaced for some reason......... Exhaust ran very close to starter and after a bit of time Heat soak rendered starter usless until it had cooled down enough ....................

Not what's going on here I don't think................

But you never know

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