The Dispatch | Expert | Scudo Hub

Get help & share your Citroen Dispatch (Jumpy) | Peugeot Expert | Fiat Scudo tips

You are not logged in.

#26 2020-09-21 18:10:31

brman
Member
Registered: 2020-08-10
Posts: 30

Re: My scudo conversion

Yes, although I am not sure how much practice I want at van conversion. It is hard work.... wink

Offline

#27 2020-09-22 16:53:45

brman
Member
Registered: 2020-08-10
Posts: 30

Re: My scudo conversion

Some small progress. The interior is insulated but a few more door panels to ply and then I can get onto making the bed etc. To that end I got my wife to compare our double mattress with the inside of the van and she decided that it would be much better use of the space if we had a 4' wide bed rather than the full 4'6". Which is what I told her from the start but better late than never wink

So, mattress attacked with a bread knife. There is no going back now!
cuttingmattress_20200922-1653.jpg

Offline

#28 2020-09-22 21:33:31

Casper
Member
From: East Lothian
Registered: 2015-12-20
Posts: 1,647

Re: My scudo conversion

Was making my bed today also. All this space and still just going for 4' wide   big_smile

20200922-144233.jpg

Offline

#29 2020-09-23 09:07:17

brman
Member
Registered: 2020-08-10
Posts: 30

Re: My scudo conversion

yes, I reckon more than enough. Especially given you cannot fall out of the side so you are not edging towards the middle just in case. I also keep on reminding my wife it is still massively better than a tent for space smile


Yours is looking good. What is the van? It looks like it has lots of straight edges and sides to build to. Something that is sadly lacking in the scudo wink

Offline

#30 2020-09-23 16:07:21

Casper
Member
From: East Lothian
Registered: 2015-12-20
Posts: 1,647

Re: My scudo conversion

brman wrote:

yes, I reckon more than enough. Especially given you cannot fall out of the side so you are not edging towards the middle just in case. I also keep on reminding my wife it is still massively better than a tent for space smile


Yours is looking good. What is the van? It looks like it has lots of straight edges and sides to build to. Something that is sadly lacking in the scudo wink

Its a coachsmith LDV Convoy. Not as straight as it looks as it starts to turn in at the bottom of the windows then again at the top. Only by an inch or so but still a bugger when sawing ply. You can see the lean in at the back on this picture

20200920-124230.jpg

Last edited by Casper (2020-09-23 22:47:47)

Offline

#31 2020-09-23 22:03:19

brman
Member
Registered: 2020-08-10
Posts: 30

Re: My scudo conversion

looks like you have plenty of space to work with though smile

Offline

#32 2020-09-23 22:47:28

Casper
Member
From: East Lothian
Registered: 2015-12-20
Posts: 1,647

Re: My scudo conversion

brman wrote:

looks like you have plenty of space to work with though smile

Aye. Its about 6'10" wall to wall and around 13' from back of drivers seat to back doors. Its going to be a running project. Get a basic usable camper built then upgrade parts as we go. Made a larger loo to fit a shower, 300w solar on the roof. Looking for a cheap option for heating the water just now.

Offline

#33 2020-09-24 18:40:31

brman
Member
Registered: 2020-08-10
Posts: 30

Re: My scudo conversion

It certainly looks like it is going to keep you busy. I think mine is also going to be a running project but I am hoping to soon have a bed so it is theoretically useable. We shall see wink

Offline

#34 2020-09-24 19:00:09

brman
Member
Registered: 2020-08-10
Posts: 30

Re: My scudo conversion

btw. some small progress (sort of...) on my van. I printed and fitted a couple of covers for the roof cross member ends.....
ceilingcovers.jpg

Offline

#35 2020-09-24 20:41:10

OAT
Member
From: Borders/Dales
Registered: 2017-01-03
Posts: 558

Re: My scudo conversion

Casper wrote:

Looking for a cheap option for heating the water just now.

Have you considered the diesel air/water heaters?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtvy2MwbArQ&t=217s

Offline

#36 2020-09-24 22:55:37

Casper
Member
From: East Lothian
Registered: 2015-12-20
Posts: 1,647

Re: My scudo conversion

OAT wrote:
Casper wrote:

Looking for a cheap option for heating the water just now.

Have you considered the diesel air/water heaters?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtvy2MwbArQ&t=217s

Thanks for that. The heater was on the cards anyway but never knew about a combo version. Now to find a UK seller.

Offline

#37 2020-09-24 23:59:32

kenbw2
Member
From: Anywhere the van takes me
Registered: 2017-11-26
Posts: 615

Re: My scudo conversion

OAT wrote:
Casper wrote:

Looking for a cheap option for heating the water just now.

Have you considered the diesel air/water heaters?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtvy2MwbArQ&t=217s

I'm debating getting one of these to replace my Propex but it all depends which has the lowest power consumption.

From what I can see, the diesel heaters take 8-10A with the glow plug running in the first 30s, and then about 1 - 1.5A for the fan

My Propex runs at 2A when the fan's running, according toa  thermostat

The diesel heaters I gather can be put on high or low whereas my Propex comes on and off as the temperature rises and drops

So it comes into, which on on balance uses more power?


2000 Citroen Dispatch 1.9TD XUD9 Camper Conversion + full time home
1999 Citroen Dispatch 1.9D DW8 Disassembled Camper Conversion
1996 Peugeot 806 1.9TD XUD9 Spare vehicle
1998 Citroen Synergie 1.9TD XUD9 Snapped timing belt

Offline

#38 2020-09-25 13:40:15

brman
Member
Registered: 2020-08-10
Posts: 30

Re: My scudo conversion

I have no practical experience but, based on those figures, I would have though that the glow plug is the equivelent of 3 minutes of normal running of the heater. I assume you need 30 minutes running or more to heat any decent quantity of water so probably less than 10% of total power use?
If I got that right then I guess the diesel heater will be more efficent on battery overall, probably by about 30%?

I did see one review of the diesel water/air heaters where it appeared to need to run the hot air heating whenever it was heating water. Doesn't sound great to me and would waste a lot of power, assuming the van does not actually need heating.
I don't know how that compares to the propex? Plus I could have misunderstood that!

edit: btw, I think it was also the other way around. ie he needed to run the water pump when the air was heating otherwise the water boiled.

Last edited by brman (2020-09-25 13:41:53)

Offline

#39 2020-09-25 18:57:18

brman
Member
Registered: 2020-08-10
Posts: 30

Re: My scudo conversion

Although I have not quite finished the ply lining I decided I wanted to get on with furniture and stuff. Given this is my first camper there is a very high chance I will want to change it after a bit of use. So something quick and easy to make is a good idea.
So, here are some shelves I knocked up earlier......
shelves.jpg

When I say earlier, I mean 6 or 7 years ago when I first got the van!
They are very rough and ready but survived 7 years carrying misc electrical junk  so I thought I might as well reuse them. With a bit of trimming I now have exactly 48" between them and the metalwork above the opposite wheel arch. Just right for the bed smile

Lets hope they survive inspection by my wife tomorrow though  yikes

Offline

#40 Yesterday 17:11:44

brman
Member
Registered: 2020-08-10
Posts: 30

Re: My scudo conversion

Well, the old shelves did not survive. Mostly because I mis-measured the space required for the bed so they do not fit very well. Maybe they will get a reprive later.

It is now starting to look like it might turn into a camper. A part built bed/seat base with a test fit of the mattress halves to make sure they fit. They do, just......
partbuiltseat.jpg

Then an almost complete (ie done bar any cladding ply on the sides of the base) seat base. The top is lift up and removable at the moment but might end up with a hinge later. At the bulkhead there is now a support for that end of the bed base and an infill piece will complete the gap.
bedbox.jpg

There will also be some boxing around the wheel arch to protect it from stuff sliding around but that is not a high priority at the moment.

Offline

Board footer